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原来沙巴是跟苏绿苏丹租回来的?
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刚刚看了新闻报报看,有提到原来沙巴是跟苏绿苏丹租回来的?还是花 RM5300 租回来的,真的有这样的事情?
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发表于 1-3-2013 11:34 PM
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发表于 2-3-2013 12:09 AM
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发表于 2-3-2013 12:38 AM
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testimony of Tun Mustapha in 1985 may shed more light on the present incident. The former Sabah strongman had told AsiaWeek then: “As far as I am concerned there is really no claim.
“It was settled in 1939 by the British Chartered Company. There is a high court judgment to prove that. I personally stand to benefit if the claim was valid as I’m one of the heirs of the Sulu Sultan. But I know there is no claim.
“The federal government I think has a clever policy on the so called claim. They don’t ignore it altogether but they don’t entertain it either. Maybe they want to use it against the Sabah people as a bargaining item to make them behave.
“If Sabah people do anything they can say ‘look, we will leave you to the Philippines.’”
http://wikisabah.blogspot.com/20 ... sulu-stand-off.html |
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发表于 2-3-2013 12:49 AM
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应该说是卖过来的。卖价是每年RM5300。
当时是英国北婆罗洲公司和苏禄王国签约,签的东西是指苏禄王国将把东沙巴永久性租借给被婆罗洲公司和其子孙与继承人,并将所有持有权,管辖权和领土权尽数交给北婆罗洲公司,合约有效至时间的尽头。 |
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发表于 2-3-2013 12:59 AM
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其实是拿不回的。那时签的是永久性租借,而且不能收回,除非租户自动退租。
永久性租借虽然不合国际法,但双方签订的合约,那是没有办法推翻的,上到国际法庭也没有用。
就像美国在古巴关塔那摩的基地,也是永久租借,美国每年有开支票给古巴还租金的。
而古巴因为不承认美国当初的租借合约,所以从来不兑现支票,除了共产党刚开始上台兑现过一次。
美国就用古巴曾经兑现过支票来辩解说古巴已经接受了租约的合法性。
这个苏鲁苏丹应该年年都有兑现支票,更加不用讲了。 |
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发表于 2-3-2013 08:47 AM
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发表于 2-3-2013 09:50 PM
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原来如此。。那官方一直所为的”谈判“就是包租公要起租金吗?![](static/image/smiley/onion/question.gif) |
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发表于 2-3-2013 10:33 PM
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RM5300就可租整个沙巴?!哪我要租kl哦.. 不知可不可以出钱把菲南租过来@@ |
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发表于 2-3-2013 10:44 PM
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原来沙巴人其实是菲律宾人来的 ![](static/image/smiley/default/icon_redface.gif) |
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发表于 2-3-2013 11:47 PM
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Cession Money就是《割让金》!?
![](http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542652_348007658643732_1600387992_n.jpg) |
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发表于 2-3-2013 11:59 PM
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发表于 3-3-2013 12:35 AM
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ekpmeng 发表于 2-3-2013 10:33 PM ![](static/image/common/back.gif)
RM5300就可租整个沙巴?!哪我要租kl哦.. 不知可不可以出钱把菲南租过来@@
当年是不小的数目了。。。
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发表于 3-3-2013 01:22 AM
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几时才是时间的尽头呢![](static/image/smiley/default/shocked.gif) |
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发表于 3-3-2013 09:48 AM
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马脸 发表于 3-3-2013 01:22 AM ![](static/image/common/back.gif)
几时才是时间的尽头呢
就是大家都不吃饭的时候。 |
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发表于 3-3-2013 10:36 AM
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发表于 3-3-2013 02:45 PM
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my1957 发表于 3-3-2013 10:36 AM ![](static/image/common/back.gif)
酱新加坡叻?
难道柔佛可以去抢回来?
难道抢来了加票给民联? ![](static/image/smiley/default/titter.gif)
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发表于 3-3-2013 07:58 PM
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NickNick 发表于 2-3-2013 10:44 PM ![](static/image/common/back.gif)
原来沙巴人其实是菲律宾人来的
not funny dude |
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发表于 3-3-2013 08:32 PM
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做么我们的" 1 Malaysia Expandables " 特种部队还沒來支援 ??
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发表于 3-3-2013 09:03 PM
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干冰王 发表于 3-3-2013 08:32 PM ![](static/image/common/back.gif)
做么我们的" 1 Malaysia Expandables " 特种部队还沒來支援 ??
这图片。。。有点意思 ![](static/image/smiley/onion/onion (17).gif)
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