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中国崛起 增强海外华人底气

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 楼主| 发表于 26-4-2024 05:44 PM | 显示全部楼层


印尼排华屠杀华人,台湾为印尼华人做过什么?

四小龙wor...   连屁都不敢放一个
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印尼排华屠杀华人,中共为印尼华人做过什么?

联合国五常wor...   连屁都不敢放一个

中华民国台湾的反应:
5月16日,政府指派緊急指派專機飛往印尼疏散受難者,並且安排5架C-130運輸機於國內待命,以及派遣艦隊至峇里島海域隨時進行撤僑。爲疏運在雅加達機場的數千名台商和僑民,長榮加開的第一班專機在台北時間5月15日上午9時20分起飛,機上載有238名旅客返回。第二班華航專機則在10時許起飛。隨後華航在下午4時30分又開出第二班雅加達加班機,凌晨2時50分再開出第三班加班機。長榮在凌晨1點鐘也加開一班泗水加班機。期間有歸僑台商不滿航空公司哄抬票價,以及政府的撤僑行動效率低下。5月17日,外交部長胡志強表示印尼政府向台表達希望勿撤資撤僑,當時他也擔心政府如果動作太大會激怒印尼政府,後果難以掌握。至7月29日,中華民國政府公開召見印尼駐台代表提出「最嚴正的抗議」,並向受害者提供援助。政府也威脅要撤回在印尼約130億美元的投資,以及禁止約1萬5千名印尼勞工入境。8月3日,上百人向印尼駐台北經濟貿易代表處拋擲雞蛋抗議印尼華人女性被強暴。8月8日,印尼投資部長韓扎哈茲飛往台灣提倡投資印尼時,也因此為此事件道歉。

中华人民共和国的反应:
中国。一九九八年八月新加坡《联合早报》对于屠杀事件的评论——

“中国对印尼政府似乎太软弱了,太软弱了,太软弱了……。中国连谴责都不敢。6月中旬外交部对此事件表示了关注;时隔一个多月后,7月28日,外交部长唐家璇又表示‘强烈关注和不安’。就在国际舆论纷纷用“野蛮”、“惨无人道”来描述这一事件时,8月3日迟到的《人民日报》评论员却只敢说‘掠人财产、奸人妻女’,仿佛是个别道德品行不良的流氓所为似的。

“不仅如此,中国国内的各大报纸也似乎断绝了消息来源,对印尼发生的暴行非常陌生,好像印尼华人血管里流的不是中华民族的血液,摆出一付莫管闲事的姿态。这不应该是中国的形象。这不应该是中华民族的形象。这不应该是普通中国人的形象。在天涯咫尺的信息化时代,印尼五月发生暴乱的消息居然在中国大陆被封锁了足足两个多月。直到七月份网际网络上传出一张张令人惨痛欲绝的图片,传出海外华人群情激愤示威游行场面时,才终于点点滴滴地漏出在媒体上。”

江泽民委讬美国人为其写的传记中,对九八年印尼大屠华也是只字未提。

八月十日清晨,北大、清华部分学生贴出大小字报,抗议印尼五月暴行。十六日晚,在北大历史学系的门口,一大群义愤填膺的北大学生声泪俱下,痛斥印尼暴徒,相约次日在印尼使馆门前举行游行。北大团委书记受命赶来警告学生,不听劝阻去游行会带来灾难后果。一个女同学放声大哭,说:“我们不是去反政府,只是想对印尼华人表达哀思,这也不行么?”团委书记说:“你们是学生,这不关你们的事。”一位红了眼的男同学问:“我们都是中国人,怎么能不关我们的事呢?”团委书记说:“相信我,国家会处理的。”男同学追问:“难道我们就不是国家的一员?!”遭威胁的学生在凄然散去时,有个声音绝望的大喊:“你们当官的是不是中国人?!”

八月十七日上午九时许,北京北大、北航、北化和财政经贸大学等部分大学约两百多名学生冲破当局的阻拦来到印尼使馆。据说,政府原先预计学生要到印尼大使馆,因此事先做了一个方案,以印尼独立日请求维持使馆前大街秩序为由,禁止学生接近使馆。中共当局一不允许举牌,二不允许喊口号,学生自制的抗议牌子和放大的照片只好铺展在地上。从十七日至二十日的答复时间里,中国各大小新闻媒体见不到有关这场抗议的任何只言片语,也见不到印尼政府的答复。



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 楼主| 发表于 27-4-2024 12:40 AM | 显示全部楼层


Chinese Indonesian asylum seekers

Active lobbying of politicians by Chinese American groups contributed to an unusually high number of successful Chinese Indonesian applicants for political asylum to the United States in 1998 as an impact of the May 1998 riots in Indonesia. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, 7,359 applicants were granted asylee status and 5,848 were denied in the decade up to 2007. In recent years, however, it has become increasingly difficult for applicants to prove to immigration officials that they would face targeted violence if returned to Indonesia.[10]



ngong 居1450 大概看不懂 这段的意思, 或者刻意曲解误导别人  (1450 的话 信一成都死)

印尼排华老尾根本没帮, 而是排华后,尾国华人极力游说 (active lobbying 一般就是银子) 政府收纳印尼华侨,
1998 到2007 , 9 年之间, 只有7359 印尼华人成功移民,5848 人被拒绝 (银子不够吧!)


美国带头接受7000人是什么鬼, 都说1450 的家教就是: we lie, we cheat, we steal.
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发表于 27-4-2024 09:39 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
dalap 发表于 27-4-2024 12:40 AM
Chinese Indonesian asylum seekers

Active lobbying of politicians by Chinese American groups contr ...

Tuaceng这类家伙就是很会歪曲事实帮美国主子洗白辩护, 因为是美国主人教的:" 我们撒谎, 我们欺骗, 我们偷窃。。。"
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发表于 27-4-2024 03:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
shiamfan 发表于 23-4-2024 05:07 PM
中國崛起

印尼華人被殺

中国对态发展表示关切,
中国人民共和国坚持本着不干涉别国内政,

中国希望当地政府采取必要措施保护当地人民和财产
中国呼吁当地华人(那个国家的华人)遵守当地法律。。。。

听到我也会背到瓜地烂熟了
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发表于 27-4-2024 03:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
tuaceng 发表于 24-4-2024 03:56 PM
以前,种族歧视是正常。
随着文明的进步,到了今天,平等对待各族,已经是大趋势。
今天,政治正确大行其 ...

以前,种族歧视是正常。
随着文明的进步,到了今天,平等对待各族,已经是大趋势



哈囖,
今天巴勒斯坦人活到怎样了 ?
伊拉克,土耳其 库尔德人活到怎样了 ?
缅甸罗兴亚人处境怎样 ?
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发表于 27-4-2024 04:57 PM | 显示全部楼层



1998 到2007 , 9 年之间, 只有7359 印尼华人成功移民,5848 人被拒绝 (银子不够吧!)
到底是谁胡说八道?该文的来源只拿一部分拿出来,特地忽略重要部分不说!

Fleeing after May 1998
Thousands of Chinese Indonesians left Indonesia after the anti-Chinese violence in Jakarta and other major Indonesian cities in May 1998. Many fled to the US seeking sanctuary either temporarily or with the hope of permanent settlement. Indonesia is currently one of the top 25 countries whose citizens seek asylum in the United States, peaking at 12th ranking in 2004. According to the US Department of Justice, over twenty thousand Indonesian asylum cases have been filed since 1998. In 1998 alone, at least 1972 Indonesians were granted asylum in the United States; the highest number granted for Indonesians as a result of the relatively fast and non-adversarial process of ‘affirmative asylum interviews’, in a decade. The majority of these political asylum seekers from Indonesia were of ethnic Chinese descent.


通常难民庇护申请,由于各种考核,是要等很久的,而这次而通过难民庇护的速度和数量,是在该年代里相对更快!单单1998年,就通过了1972人!

超过两万人申请庇护。
而庇护的申请条件是:

Asylum in the United States has two specific requirements.
First, asylum applicants must be physically present in the United States, or at a designated port of arrival.
Second, they must show that they suffered persecution in the past, or have a well-founded fear of future persecution in their country of nationality and permanent residency on account of at least one of the five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.
意思是,已经超过两万印尼难民已经到达了美国!因此他们在等待申请通过的这几年内,是不用担心被印尼的暴民屠杀的!


美国带头接受7000人是什么鬼, 都说1450 的家教就是: we lie, we cheat, we steal.
不懂小粉红的中共伪政权让多少印尼难民进来呢?口口声声什么“中国崛起增强华人海外底气”,口说无凭,来,98年印尼排华,收留了多少难民?

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发表于 27-4-2024 05:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 tuaceng 于 27-4-2024 05:04 PM 编辑


Tuaceng这类家伙就是很会歪曲事实帮美国主子洗白辩护, 因为是美国主人教的:" 我们撒谎, 我们欺骗, 我们偷窃。。。"

美国带头接受7000人是什么鬼, 都说1450 的家教就是: we lie, we cheat, we steal.

原来美国收留印尼华人难民是we lie, we cheat, we steal,收留难民是邪恶的行为?
那么中共小粉红说什么中国崛起 增强海外华人底气,却对印尼排华不闻不问,又不收留印尼华人难民,是不是才是we lie, we cheat, we steal?

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发表于 27-4-2024 05:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
空中说话 发表于 27-4-2024 03:50 PM
以前,种族歧视是正常。
随着文明的进步,到了今天,平等对待各族,已经是大趋势


平等对待各族,已经是大趋势
趋势,不等于就没有不平等。

类似以前考试30分,现在考试拿60分,是进步,但还有40分的题目答错。


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发表于 27-4-2024 05:14 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
tuaceng 发表于 27-4-2024 05:01 PM
原来美国收留印尼华人难民是we lie, we cheat, we steal,收留难民是邪恶的行为?
那么中共小粉红说什 ...

Ngong居, 搞清楚一个重点, 印尼排华当年中国国力还不强, 想理也没能力理, 现在中国国力比过去强多了, 如果印尼敢再复制当年的排华你看中国理不理!
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 楼主| 发表于 27-4-2024 05:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
According to the US Department of Justice, over twenty thousand Indonesian asylum cases have been filed since 1998. In 1998 alone, at least 1972 Indonesians were granted asylum in the United States; the highest number granted for Indonesians as a result of the relatively fast and non-adversarial process of ‘affirmative asylum interviews’, in a decade.




看来1450 看不懂英文。。  唉!!!

这段的意思是很多人申请庇护 (according to the US Department of Justice, over twenty thousand Indonesian asylum cases have been filed since 1998)

但是批准的并不多, 1998 批准的 `至少`1972 个人( In 1998 alone, at least 1972 Indonesians were granted asylum in the United States; 那已经算是最高的人数了(the highest number granted for Indonesians。。)





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发表于 27-4-2024 05:31 PM | 显示全部楼层


还有,美国不是处理单单一个印尼在1998年的申请,还有世界很多个国家,也是在申请。
而且,由于数量过多,美国还要接纳1998年之前的申请。
还有,印尼还要和不同的国家的难民竞争呢!
比如1999年,中共残害人民,中国难民大约有5千人逃到美国来寻求庇护,而美国的能力最多一年内可以批准几万名难民庇护而已,中国难民庇护的批准率是23.7%。

During 1999, the United States hosted an estimated 638,000 refugees and asylum seekers in need of protection, including about 533,000 pending asylum applicants, about 20,000 persons granted asylum during the year, and more than 85,000 newly resettled refugees.

During 1999, 41,377 asylum seekers filed applications with the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), continuing a trend of falling numbers of asylum applications that began in 1996. Although the INS does not provide the number of individuals these cases represent, it does indicate that the number of cases granted, 13,220, represented 17,767 individuals. Based on this 1.34 individuals per case, USCR estimates that about 55,445 persons applied for asylum with the INS during the fiscal year (October through September).

Asylum applications in 1999 represented a 25 percent decrease from the 54,952 applications filed in 1998 and a 48 percent decrease from the 84,839 applications filed in 1997. In reality, though, the number of new arrivals in 1999 registering asylum claims was much lower than that. Only 31,735 persons filed new asylum applications. The remainder had been previously filed, but administratively closed, and were reopened during the year.

INS asylum officers granted 13,220 applications and denied or referred 21,403, for a 38.2 percent approval rate. This represented an increase from an approval rate of 23 percent in 1998 and 18.7 in 1997. The largest number of asylum seekers in 1999 came from China (5,218), with an approval rate of 23.7 percent. The next largest nationality group applying for asylum was Somalis, with 3,147 applicants and an approval rate of 71.4 percent. Haitians represented the third largest group, with 2,977 applying during the year, and an approval rate of 7.6 percent. The next largest groups were Salvadorans (2,783; approval rate of 11.4 percent), Guatemalans (2,716; approval rate of 13.6 percent), and Mexicans (2,542; approval rate of 2.3 percent).

Among the nationalities with the highest asylum approval rates with INS asylum officers were Afghans (81.7 percent), Cubans and Ethiopians (76 to 78 percent), and Sudanese, Somalis, and Burmese (71 to 75 percent).

Fewer asylum applicants during 1999 meant that the INS could continue to reduce the backlog of cases that had climbed to 464,000 in 1995. By year's end, 341,622 asylum applications were pending with the INS. This included 178,708 Salvadoran cases (about 239,468 persons), 100,356 Guatemalan cases (about 134,477 persons), and 15,120 Haitian cases (about 20,260 persons). Many of these cases are of individuals who may qualify for permanent legal status in the United States under the Nicaraguan and Central American Relief Act of 1997 (NACARA) and the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act of 1998 (HRIFA). The asylum cases of Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Haitians approved for resident status under these special programs will be closed before any decision is reached on the application.

For the first year since 1996, the caseload decreased for immigration judges, housed in the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR). In 1996, the first year after the internal reform of the asylum procedure by which INS asylum officers began referring cases to the EOIR that were not granted directly, the number of asylum cases received by immigration judges more than tripled.

The backlog grew each year until 1999 when 59,110 were pending, a 14 percent decrease from 1998. Immigration judges granted 6,589 asylum cases in 1999 and denied 16,642, an approval rate of 28.4 percent. The largest volume of immigration court cases decided, by nationality, were of Chinese (4,398), Guatemalans (2,454), and Salvadorans (1,990), with asylum approval rates of 44.2, 7.1, and 5 percent, respectively. Nationalities with the most cases pending at the EOIR at year's end were Mexicans (10,746), Chinese (6,855), Salvadorans (4,625), and Guatemalans (4,403).





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 楼主| 发表于 27-4-2024 05:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
都到这地步了 还想继续美化老尾吗?   
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发表于 27-4-2024 05:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
Mr.Bean 发表于 27-4-2024 05:14 PM
Ngong居, 搞清楚一个重点, 印尼排华当年中国国力还不强, 想理也没能力理, 现在中国国力比过去强多了, 如 ...

没能力理?

China hosted nearly 282,000 refugees at the end of 1998, including 281,000 from Vietnam, about 800 from Laos, and smaller numbers from other countries. An unknown number – perhaps hundreds of thousands – of Kachin refugees from Burma were in China at year's end, although none received UNHCR assistance.


有能力收留几十万越南和缅甸的难民,没有能力收留印尼华人?一两千人意思意思也好啊!
想骗谁?


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发表于 27-4-2024 05:39 PM | 显示全部楼层


这段的意思是很多人申请庇护
自己英文不会就承认!
可以申请庇护的基本条件,就是该难民必须是身在美国。
也就是在当时,已经有两万印尼难民进来美国了!

在申请的这段时间内,不用担心被印尼暴民屠杀!

但是批准的并不多, 1998 批准的 `至少`1972 个人
笨!首先要处理1998年之前的难民申请,还有不是只有印尼,还有来自世界其他各地的申请。
backlog of cases that had climbed to 464,000 in 1995. By year's end, 341,622 asylum applications were pending with the INS.











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发表于 27-4-2024 05:41 PM | 显示全部楼层


都到这地步了 还想继续美化老尾吗?   

中国崛起 增强海外华人底气


印尼排华,中共收留了多少印尼华人难民?
美国至少让2万印尼难民免于屠杀,来,中共的成绩呢?






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发表于 27-4-2024 05:55 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
tuaceng 发表于 27-4-2024 05:34 PM
没能力理?



Ngong居, 是当时中共的军力无法投送得那么远, 救不了印尼的华人!
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发表于 27-4-2024 06:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
Mr.Bean 发表于 27-4-2024 05:55 PM
Ngong居, 是当时中共的军力无法投送得那么远, 救不了印尼的华人!

什么军力?

叫你去接收难民而已,就像你怎样接收几十万越南和缅甸的难民那样,ngong居!
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发表于 27-4-2024 06:26 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
tuaceng 发表于 27-4-2024 06:16 PM
什么军力?

叫你去接收难民而已,就像你怎样接收几十万越南和缅甸的难民那样,ngong居!

越南和缅甸离中国相对较近当然没问题, 可是离印尼就远得多, 你可以这样比较的吗ngong居! 况且越南缅甸这些国家的领土与中国接壤, 难民或许从陆路都可以进入中国了, 印尼的华人是做不到的! Ngong居!
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发表于 27-4-2024 06:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 tuaceng 于 27-4-2024 06:54 PM 编辑
Mr.Bean 发表于 27-4-2024 06:26 PM
越南和缅甸离中国相对较近当然没问题, 可是离印尼就远得多, 你可以这样比较的吗ngong居! 况且越南缅甸这 ...

你好笑!


当时中共早有安排飞机送本国公民离开。为何不用同样的做法来载印尼华人?原来,中共只限定中国公民而已啊!

中国驻印尼大使馆在骚乱期间曾逐个拨打电话确认300多名登记在册中国公民的安危,并开车进入骚乱地区将受困者转移至安全地带,同时要求航空公司多开三个航班,撤走200余人。

至于印尼公民的华人,就因为他们非中国公民,因此不闻不问!

ngong居!
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