印度陣風合約或在大選後簽署

MARK-II

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nat ... /article4954243.ece

法國人想要正式拿下印度陣風大單，仍有不少問題待解決。
根據印度媒體報導，購買126架Rafale陣風戰鬥機的合約，可能要等9月的全國大選結束，下一屆政府組成後才能簽約。
印度國會議員也寫了兩封信給國防部，第一封是關於陣風的全壽命使用成本，也提出陣風在7 項購買指標中，其中兩項不達標！
第二封則指出招標過程被操縱，並置疑為何選擇完全沒有外銷記錄的陣風！

Defence Ministry probing questions on life cycle cost of aircraft

There is some dispiriting news for French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian as he arrives in New Delhi to push the 126 fighter aircraft deal, said to be India’s biggest-ever military tender.

Given the state of play in the Defence Ministry, the deal is unlikely to be finalised before the end of September. By then the election season would have set in and no bureaucrat would want to sign the deal. In such an eventuality, the deal is likely to be decided by the next government, said highly placed sources.

Two letters by parliamentarians to Defence Minister A.K. Antony are responsible for the Defence Ministry now going through the contract papers with a fine toothcomb. The bigger spanner in the works is the former External Affairs Minister, Yashwant Sinha, questioning the “life cycle cost” criteria or the cost incurred during the service life of the aircraft. He also claimed two of the seven criteria mentioned in the Defence Procurement Policy were not applied to the tender.

The second letter, which like Mr. Sinha’s missive has been referred by Mr. Antony to Ministry officials, alleges manipulation of the entire tender process. Parliamentarian M. V. Mysoora Reddy’s “patriotic responsibility” forced him to speak out against the selection of a company that has not sold a single plane of this type to an overseas customer.

Mr. Antony sent both letters to officials for an enquiry. While Mr. Sinha’s allegations about life cycle costs are being looked into by Defence Finance officials who are finding it tough to do the calculations all over again, Mr. Reddy’s letter has been sent to the unit that evaluated bids submitted by all the five contestants. But the original team has since moved on and the new set of officials faces the daunting task of doing the calculations all over again. It is unlikely they will wrap up the reviews by the time the poll season informally rings in and bureaucrats could hesitate from taking fresh initiatives.

   

Boilwater

那个国会议员还真是有良心!
他提出的问题,如果印度真的能够顶的下的话,巴基斯坦会偷笑.
另外,上回有网上乱传2013年3月会签约!

MARK-II

Boilwater 发表于 26-7-2013 02:09 PM
那个国会议员还真是有良心!
他提出的问题,如果印度真的能够顶的下的话,巴基斯坦会偷笑.  ...

先研究清楚問題才簽約，這是合理的，畢竟是百多億美元大單啊。
看來，如果我國要買陣風，也必須先等印度正式簽約後，大約在2014年初才公佈吧？

Boilwater

MARK-II 发表于 26-7-2013 02:28 PM
先研究清楚問題才簽約，這是合理的，畢竟是百多億美元大單啊。
看來，如果我國要買陣風，也必須先等印度 ...

如果真要买阵风当然要印度打头阵!
要不然AESA的升级费谁要顶?
另外印度如果签买阵风,阵风的服役数量将从120增加到200多.
虽然还是少过台风很多, 而且后勤虽然还是贵,但最少阵风sub con可以开工不会没有零件.

RSSFORMIDABLE

2013年3月签约是印度空军司令的谈话，有人竟然说它是乱传?

waja2000

Dassault CEO : India's decision on Rafale is closed

A follow-up meeting every day around noon with CEO Eric Trappier, 50 employees working full-time, sharing responsibilities with HAL now settled. [...] Dassault mobilization is still strong to try to conclude the sale of 126 Rafale in India before the end of the year. And neither the approach of general elections, nor present or future moves by competitors trying to derail the deal , won't change New Delhi's decision , says the boss of the manufacturer.
"The decision (to choose the Rafale, Ed), is firm. The elections will not change the nature of the choice, "he said Thursday morning, after the presentation of interim results. If the signature does not occur before the election? Then "this will happen after. The tender has been long documented. I'm not worried, "said Eric Trappier which highlights the consensus of the political class on the need to modernize the Indian combat aviation.
Eric Trappier underlined his trust in the Indian public group Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL), with which Dassault Aviation is working since 1989 and will be the prime contractor for the construction of the Rafale in India. Sources familiar with the matter had reported differences on the distribution of tasks. "They will take responsibility for the Rafale, and we are taking the responsibility to make sure they know how to build the Rafale," summed Eric Trappier. "We never issued any doubts about HAL."
Private Reliance group, with which Dassault Aviation has established a joint venture, will be a subcontractor for the manufacture of 108 Rafale that will be built in India after the first 18 producted in France.
Eric Trappier estimated that the first Rafale could be delivered to India three years after the signing of the contract, but stressed that they could not be taken directly from the French chains because the equipment must be adapted to Indian needs as from the first aircraft.

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waja2000

KH-31P/PD兼容阵风
俄罗斯军工报道,根据印度的要求,TMC正在和达索谈判以便使阵风兼容KH-31P/PD, 估计兼容成本需要USD 36.8milion,估计能在2014/15年完成. KH31是AGM88的竞争者, KH31最终会被采购如果美国拒绝让AGM88兼容阵风.

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waja2000 发表于 27-7-2013 06:21 PM
KH-31P/PD兼容阵风
俄罗斯军工报道,根据印度的要求,TMC正在和达索谈判以便使阵风兼容KH-31P/PD, 估计兼 ...

请不要相信网上什么升级阵风aesa雷达必须花20亿欧元的说法

此说法是出自一些不明人士的计算，这些不明人士，就连汽车的14 configuration都搞不清楚是什么，就说成是14个座位。再来就是，连20亿和2亿都分不清楚。

如果真的花20亿欧元，我相信，这笔钱可以干脆买下阵风aesa雷达的版权，

所以这不逻辑

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MARK-II 发表于 26-7-2013 02:28 PM
先研究清楚問題才簽約，這是合理的，畢竟是百多億美元大單啊。
看來，如果我國要買陣風，也必須先等印度 ...

126架是战机不是玩具战机，有人以为卖战机很容易

WHY~G

不论有过什么报道，有一点是可以肯定的。
印度是一个最善变的国家。到真正交货前都还有很多变数。
就如在本地和一些印度商人做买卖，可以变来变去的。
再加上印度的政治并未完全稳定下来。所以报道说要看大选情况是可以理解的。

TheBiglier

WHY~G 发表于 29-7-2013 03:21 PM
不论有过什么报道，有一点是可以肯定的。
印度是一个最善变的国家。到真正交货前都还有很多变数。
就如在 ...

是的，除了善变他们注重买武器更甚于消灭贫穷