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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 01:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forenx 于 11-4-2008 01:12 PM 发表
辛苦了,资料很集中,而且利用这些资料来回复大家的疑问,
不是很容易就可以做到的。

在此要感谢各本地报章,google,blog和各政党网页
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发表于 11-4-2008 01:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
呵呵呵,。。
某些部长,议员阿。。
都不是本地人~~~~
还获封赐丹斯里~~~~
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发表于 11-4-2008 01:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 lee_sy85 于 11-4-2008 01:21 PM 发表
呵呵呵,。。
某些部长,议员阿。。
都不是本地人~~~~

这个我有看过报章报道。

(找得到有关报道吗?)
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 01:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 lee_sy85 于 11-4-2008 01:21 PM 发表
呵呵呵,。。
某些部长,议员阿。。
都不是本地人~~~~
还获封赐丹斯里~~~~

午餐时间,暂时休息
最后给你心痛多一下

庇市黃子發夫婦慘遭劫殺案
兇手為非法移民

2004-12-11 17:39:01

【亞庇十日訊】根據警方初步調查,相信轟動全州的華社聞人拿督黃子發夫婦命案的兇手乃是一名年約二十多近三十歲的非法移民,生前曾在沙巴大學建築地盤當過勞工。
警方目前正在全面追查確定其身份背景,包括調查死者是否擁有犯罪紀錄甚至染有毒癮。
州刑事調查主任巴克里今日在一項新聞會上透露上述消息時並表示,警方目前正循多角度調查該案。
雖然警方昨日已在案發後當場宣佈破案,但是巴克里表示,警方依然將繼續針對數點深入調查,包括確定兇手循什麼途徑入屋、案件究竟有否涉及其他人、兇手眞正的身份背景等。
調查顯示一人幹案
惟至目前為止,警方的初步調查都顯示此案屬於破門行竊、打劫及謀殺案,同時是一個人所幹。
緣坐擁中興超級市場、亞庇酒店等老牌商號的黃子發,昨日早上與其夫人拿汀李美喜在亞庇升旗山高級住宅區豪宅內慘遭潛入屋內的歹徒殺害。
而兇手行兇後更放火燒屋,欲逃走時卻被大批趕抵現場的警察包圍,逃遁無門窒息燒死在屋內。
缺兇手正式身份証
據悉,警方雖然在兇手身上搜得一些證件,但是當中卻沒有正式的身份證,而一些塡上身份證號碼的證件,卻又查出是屬於他人所有。因此警方相信兇手是一名非法移民,使用他人身份在本地逗留。
加上警方也在其身上找到一張署名「DEN」的工友卡,因此查出死者生前可能為沙巴大學建築工程某承包商聘用的建築勞工。
可能涉及其他罪案
此外,警方尙在兇手牛仔褲內取得多張當舖收據,懷疑兇手生前可能涉及其他破門行竊等罪案。
詢及兇手幹案至死前的種種不合理舉止,是否可能涉及毒品時,巴克里表示警方目前尙在調查以確定兇手是否一名癮君子。
巴克里今日也證實,警方昨日在現場起獲的兩項證物,包括一把手電筒及一柄開信刀,相信就是殺害黃氏的兇器。
根據初步的報吿,黃氏的頭部包括臉部都有明顯傷痕,懷疑就是上述兇器所致。
黃夫人倒斃在主人房地上,雖然屍體被燒焦,不過被發現時頸上纏有繩狀物件,因此警方相信她是遭人勒斃。
兇手則是在主人房浴室內窒息,其屍體被發現時腿部被火燒焦。
由於現場被高度燒毀,暫時無法得知兇手入屋行竊時究竟取走了甚麼財物。巴克里透露,由於命案死者的剖驗工作仍在繼續,警方目前尙未接獲完整的剖驗報吿。
至於兇手是在屋內的什麼地方縱火,以及用什麼點火,則有待鑒定組以及消防局的調查報吿。
不過警方一般相信,兇手在殺人後放火,極可能是為了毀滅證據。不過一切詳情有待進一步調查證實。
另一方面,擄悉,黃氏夫婦遺體暫定下星期三安葬。
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发表于 11-4-2008 01:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 lee_sy85 于 11-4-2008 13:21 发表
呵呵呵,。。
某些部长,议员阿。。
都不是本地人~~~~
还获封赐丹斯里~~~~


斗湖曾有一个市政厅主席是印尼人tim~~~~
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 01:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 等等 于 11-4-2008 01:26 PM 发表


斗湖曾有一个市政厅主席是印尼人tim~~~~

拜里米苏拉是印尼人
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发表于 11-4-2008 01:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
等下我有空全部转过政经那边去, 可以吗??
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 01:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 等等 于 11-4-2008 01:40 PM 发表
等下我有空全部转过政经那边去, 可以吗??

非常好
请大家自由发挥
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发表于 11-4-2008 01:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 alexsuen 于 11-4-2008 13:42 发表

非常好
请大家自由发挥


精华贴 ~~
我会按报告的 ~~~
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发表于 11-4-2008 02:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
沙巴卖登记计划, 外国人拿马来西亚公民!
DAILY EXPRESS NEWS
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Another ex-ISA man owns up

Kota Kinabalu: A second former Internal Security Act (ISA) detainee has stepped forward to admit that he, too, was involved in the issuance of Identity Cards (ICs) to foreigners "but only to those eligible".

Jabar Khan said during the 1980s he "assisted mostly Filipinos and Indonesians who have been staying here for a long time to acquire genuine ICs, which was provided for under the law anyway."

Like another ex-ISA detainee on Saturday, Hassnar Ebrahim, Jabar said he was also willing to testify in court so that the truth can be known.

"Yes, I was involved, if not I would not be under ISA detention," said Jabar, who was held under the ISA from July 26, 1997 till Dec. 24, 1999 and was placed under Restricted Residence (RR) in the State Capital from January 2000 to January 2002.

However, the 65-year-old Putatan Umno member said the time has also come for the people to move forward, instead of harping on the issue.

"They should focus on addressing a more serious matter, i.e. that of fake ICs being sold to illegal immigrants and I believe the number having these is far greater," he said.

"This (fake ICs) is what the political leaders at both State and Federal level should be tackling rather than engage in pointless debate or pinning blame."

He also said as far as he knew, the Federal Government cannot be blamed, was not involved and probably was not aware until it was too late. "The situation was created by the PBS Government then due to its confrontational stand against Federal and pulling out of Barisan Nasional...some people with authority saw it as a golden opportunity and abused their powers."

Speaking at the Daily Express office Monday, Jabar, a founder-member of Parti Bersatu Sabah, said he was never involved in the issuance or sale of fake ICs and that though he knew about Sandakan businessman Hassnar Ebrahim, he was not part of the latter's operations.

Hassnar had said that he declined police requests to be interviewed on the matter because he had spoken at length of his involvement in a court case while other evidence have been published in books. However, Jabar said he was willing to be a key witness and also tell all in the event Hassnar is taken to court. Both Jabar and Hassnar were prominently mentioned in a latest book entitled "IC Projek" penned by M.D Mutalib, which is being sold for RM1,000 each.

"For helping those who had resided for a long time in Sabah and were eligible, I was detained under ISA. But what about those selling fake ICs and are still roaming freely? "Some, I understand, have returned to their hometowns in the Philippines and Indonesia in order to escape arrest after making millions of ringgit," claimed Jabar. He alleged that the going market price for fake ICs then was between RM3,000 and RM5,000 for Pakistanis and RM500 to RM1,000 for Filipinos and Indonesians.

"A lot of people were involved and money changed hands. At that time the economy was good so money was not a problem," he said. "This, the Federal Government must investigate and act before it is too late."

As a former PBS Supreme Council member, Jabar said he headed the party committee monitoring the issuance of ICs to foreigners.

However, his membership (1985 to 1991) was suspended when he was accused of assisting a PBS' "opposition" candidate, the late Datuk Mark Koding, who was then the president of Akar Bersatu in the Ranau by-election.

He said since Sabah was led by a PBS opposition government "people saw it as an opportunity" (to provide fake ICs to illegals and turn them into voters or in other words for political leverage).

"I am coming out in the open to tell the truth also because our Prime Minister (Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi) has asked us to tell the truth and to work with him," said Jabar, a former Chairman of Safma.

He said the government especially the police, National Registration Department, community leaders particularly village heads and village development and security committee (JKKK) chairmen should work together to find ways to nab those with fake Ics.

"Though the Government can also take action against foreigners who obtained genuine ICs a few decades ago, they must consider that these people have already been living in the State for several generations now. What is important is to go after the fake IC holders," he said.

"If there are too many people having these fake ICs it can jeopardise the security of the nation. If action is delayed then it will allow them to procreate and by then it will be too late.

"That is why we have street children problems. They are not accepted by our government nor the Philippine government because their nationalities leave question marks," he said.

On the street children, he suggested the Government formulate a programme for the people to adopt the street children and turn them into good citizens instead of letting them loose on the street. "If the government can do it for the Acheh orphans why not here?," he asked.

Jabar said the relevant authorities especially the NRD must also immediately carry out registration exercises for locals to get ICs and late birth certificates in the remote areas of Sabah.

"There are a lot of Murut, Lundayeh, Dusun, Sungai and even Tambanuh who have yet to get their ICs," he said.

Jabar, meanwhile, claimed he had told Umno that it was not appropriate for the Government to relocate the Sri Tanjung squatters affected by the airport expansion project to the area near Kampung Ma'ang in Penampang.

"Because these people (squatters) will bring about a culture shock and they are aggressive in terms of expanding (populating) quickly. I suggested better to move them to Kinarut," he said.

Jabar said the people in Sri Tanjung are genuine IC holders and not illegal immigrants.

Sumber : http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=46717

jbtrader 感言 : 这个就是前沙巴首席部长拜林卖IC计划的主角之一, 已经被内安法令放出来了. 当年, 沙巴首席部长拜林为了自保, 批准了许多外国人和外劳的申请, 把他们合法成为马来西亚公民. 其中涉及的外国人有印尼, 菲力槟, 巴基斯坦和BANGLADESH等等.

据我所知, 最重要的目的有两个 :

1. 贪污/赚钱
2. 大选投票, 因为PBS脱离国阵, 拜林要确保PBS和自己会继续掌权.

最后, 刑警(SPECIAL BRANCH)进入沙巴, 把涉及卖登记的官员及政治人物全部以内安法令关起来, 惩罚这些卖国贼.


我爬帖子时,无意中发现西马网友在去年一月所发的帖子。
拜林到底有做过这件事吗还是被逼吃死猫了?
拜林是基督徒对吗?他应该不会支持这项非法计划吧。
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发表于 11-4-2008 02:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forenx 于 11-4-2008 14:18 发表


我爬帖子时,无意中发现西马网友在去年一月所发的帖子。
拜林到底有做过这件事吗还是被逼吃死猫了?
拜林是基督徒对吗?他应该不会支持这项非法计划吧。


据我所知道的:

卖IC的计划是当年DR.M 暗地里干的,因为要把沙巴州政权从PBS手上拿回
想象下。。

是那个部门有权力出IC的 ——〉移民厅
移民厅是在谁的管辖下的——〉联邦政府


州政府有权力出IC咩??

大家可以好好的想象到真相到底是怎样的

[ 本帖最后由 等等 于 11-4-2008 03:04 PM 编辑 ]
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发表于 11-4-2008 03:00 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forenx 于 11-4-2008 02:18 PM 发表


我爬帖子时,无意中发现西马网友在去年一月所发的帖子。
拜林到底有做过这件事吗还是被逼吃死猫了?
拜林是基督徒对吗?他应该不会支持这项非法计划吧。



政治没说什么宗教不可做些什么?看菲律宾,巴西也是信主的国家。但是贪污,贫穷非常严重。
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发表于 11-4-2008 04:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forenx 于 11-4-2008 02:18 PM 发表


我爬帖子时,无意中发现西马网友在去年一月所发的帖子。
拜林到底有做过这件事吗还是被逼吃死猫了?
拜林是基督徒对吗?他应该不会支持这项非法计划吧。

和宗教信仰无关.
和贪念比较有关.
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发表于 11-4-2008 06:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 等等 于 11-4-2008 02:52 PM 发表

据我所知道的:

卖IC的计划是当年DR.M 暗地里干的,因为要把沙巴州政权从PBS手上拿回
想象下。。

是那个部门有权力出IC的 ——〉移民厅
移民厅是在谁的管辖下的——〉联邦政府

州政府有权力出IC咩??

大家可以好好的想象到真相到底是怎样的

我已经想象到了。


原帖由 rhtm 于 11-4-2008 03:00 PM 发表
政治没说什么宗教不可做些什么?看菲律宾,巴西也是信主的国家。但是贪污,贫穷非常严重。

原帖由 说真的 于 11-4-2008 04:14 PM 发表

和宗教信仰无关.
和贪念比较有关.

索利,是我讲到不清楚。
我想表达的是:他的宗教,应该使他不会愿意看见大量信奉回教的非法移民成为沙巴州民。
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发表于 11-4-2008 06:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
突然想到:

可不可以给我们看看信奉回教的非法移民人数的数据,
以及本州新增加的回教徒人数数据?
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发表于 11-4-2008 06:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forenx 于 11-4-2008 02:18 PM 发表


我爬帖子时,无意中发现西马网友在去年一月所发的帖子。
拜林到底有做过这件事吗还是被逼吃死猫了?
拜林是基督徒对吗?他应该不会支持这项非法计划吧。

拜林应该没有在内安法令被抓。。。被抓的是他弟弟。。。
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发表于 11-4-2008 06:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 alexsuen 于 11-4-2008 01:24 PM 发表

午餐时间,暂时休息
最后给你心痛多一下

嗯。。。
这个事情还有一个版本。。。
就是行凶者是本地华人~~~
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 08:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 GiGa_Canon 于 10-4-2008 11:42 AM 发表
海警不够,但是kopi够多!


進步黨青年團籲政府
杜絕咖啡烏文化

2006-04-30 14:46:19

【亞庇廿九日訊】沙巴進步黨靑年團呼籲政府能夠勵精圖治改善州政府及公共領域遞交系統、對付甚至解雇疏於職守、瀆職或無心工作的公務員,杜絶“咖啡烏”或“貪污”文化。

同時該黨靑年團也呼籲政府解決威脅本州治安及侵害人民權益的非法移民與假大馬卡等問題。

黨靑年團長拿督張友志今日在該黨第十二屆靑年及婦女組常年大會致詞時,呼籲政府全力消除聯邦及州政府各機構部門的繁文縟節,改善遞交系統。

他呼籲當局一舉剷除聯邦及州公共服務領域官員的貪污問題。推行精明開銷,首要節省政府辦公室及機構的各種運作成本,如電話費、水費、電費、汔車燃油費及文具費用等。

“我們也希望政府公務員能夠摒棄不守時、不負責任的態度。而且政府公務員執行日常公務及解決人民問題時,必須嚴遵待客守則。”張友志這麼表示。

另外,張友志也在會上再次提出困擾本州,各方面都對本州帶來負面影響的非法移民問題。

“第九大馬計劃下的蓬勃經濟發展將需要大量勞力。我怕在不負責任的人操縱下,非法移民屆時又會透過需要大量勞工的領域大批湧入本地。”

他表示沙巴進步黨靑年團不但要當局全面遣返非法移民回原居國。也要求聯邦政府成立“皇家咨詢委員會”,鑑定問題根源及籌措最佳解決方案。

“我們不該放過任何欺騙政府的人並擁有大馬公民權。他們剝奪侵害我們的權利,也挑戰我國政府及領袖的威望。”

張友志認為當局只“逮捕”及“驅逐”並不足夠,必需作出更多措施,一舉解決各種潛在的問題。“因為這些非法移民已經有一些親人獲得大馬卡,意味他們還有回來沙巴的希望。”

“我們沒有其他方法了,只有透過政治力量、政治決心、聯邦及州國陣政府與政黨的決心。確保我們最深愛的州能夠獲得安寧,不受非法移民威脅。”張友志這麼表示。
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 08:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 antaiho 于 10-4-2008 11:23 AM 发表
沙巴政府说。。。。。管不到非法移民。。。。。因为水警不够。。。

但联邦部门说军力足够...
國安部認大馬軍警
足夠能力維護治安


【亞庇十一日訊】國內安全部總監拿督慕斯達化阿都拉披露,大馬警方有軍隊的相助下,足以應付海上巡邏,及檢查進入我國水域的船隻,以防菲南的回教祈禱團及阿布沙雅之恐怖份子潛入我國。
他指出,我國對菲南的局勢非常關注也很了解,大馬與鄰國維持著資訊交換的良好合作,任何的風吹草動,大馬都會在第一時間獲得所需的情報,以確保這裡的治安受到保障。
拿督慕斯達化在甘拜園州警察總部進行工作訪問,及聆聽沙巴水警主任莫哈末瑞助理總監之匯報後受訪時,如是披露。
他指出,大馬海軍目前有做加緊巡邏,人民無需擔憂菲南被菲政府軍追剿的叛軍和擾亂份子,會潛入我國。
他說,菲南的動亂情形,大馬非常了解也給予關注,不過我國目前的治安乃受到良好的控制。
針對留在大馬境內的非法移民越來越明目張膽,使本地人已對他們起有一定的戒心和某程度的擔憂之問題,他安慰道,警方有軍隊的協助,大家不必要擔心。
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2008 08:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 说真的 于 10-4-2008 03:08 PM 发表
不排除会有那么的一天.
我们一定要居安思危.
政府不能再怠慢了.

可能会有这么一天
在第一页的一个转贴里是这样写到:

莊永諒透露,據官方和其他管道搜集到的數據,沙巴外來移民目前至少有175萬名,多過150萬名道地的沙巴人。

他說,菲律賓不時挑起沙巴是他們的領土,其中最大把柄,是我國至今仍每年償付租借沙巴的租金,給屬于菲律賓領土的蘇祿蘇丹。

英國在第2世界大戰時向蘇祿蘇丹租借沙巴,在沙巴同意加入馬來西亞后,政府至今每年仍繳付7萬比索給蘇祿蘇丹。

莊永諒說,若菲律賓向國際法庭申請索回沙巴領土,國際法庭裁決交由沙巴人民裁決,住在沙巴的菲律賓后裔,一旦決定沙巴應歸還蘇祿蘇丹,我國極有可能失去沙巴!
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