纽约时报畅销书 《别让不懂营养学的医生害了你》

Gunnerman

那是很正常的現象，因爲營養的理念和他們的理念有很大的出入。
不是說他們反對，而是他們還未了解而已。
他們用了很多年的時間和努力來考醫，不能完全被推翻。
我只能說，大家的立場不一樣。我覺得有些案件需要營養來調理， 而有些案件則需要醫生去處理。 彼此都扮演很重要的角色，不能缺一 。能夠雙劍合璧才能達到雙贏的局面。

轻瞄弹写

西医在以前就是以医治急病。细菌感染，受伤，开刀等的
现在以高科技仪器辅助。当然有功不可灭的功劳

只是现代慢性病肆虐，现代人是病从口入。所以趋势才会改变
趋向食疗，包括营养学。。
我看到的是，很多愿意跟着改变的医生，利用医生的知识。再配合营养去救治病人，很多用西医西药医不了的病人，用营养学延长了生命

jinreung

有时很怀疑翻译的人是怎样翻译的。
这本书的英文版是叫做《What Your Doctor Doesn’t Know About Nutritional Medicine May Be Killing You》，你医生不懂营养医学的（学问）可能害了你。
而且书中强调的是预防，而不是治疗。

jinreung

My Concept of Nutritional Medicine
Most people truly do not understand the concept of nutritional medicine and fewer yet understand the concept of cellular nutrition.  This article will give you a better understanding of how I approach my patients as a specialist in Nutritional Medicine. Hopefully, this will give you a better understanding of how and why you can better protect your health or even regain your health by applying these concepts to your own life.
Concept of Oxidative Stress      
Even though oxygen is necessary for life itself, it is inherently dangerous for our existence.  In the process of utilizing oxygen within your cells to create energy, you also create a by-product referred to as free radicals.  Free radicals are charged oxygen molecules that are missing at least one electron and desire to get an electron from the surrounding area.  If it is not readily neutralized by an antioxidant,which has the ability to give this free radical the electron it desires, it can go on to create more volatile free radicals, damage the cell wall, vessel wall, proteins, fats, and even the DNA nucleus of the cell.  So the same process that turns a cut apple brown or rusts metal is causing you to rust inside.  In fact, the medical literature now shows us that over 70 chronic degenerative diseases are the result of this process.  Diseases like coronary artery disease, cancer, diabetes,Parkinson’s, arthritis, macular degeneration, MS, lupus, among others are the result of small oxidative changes that occur over a long period of time.
It is all about Balance
The number of free radicals you produce is not steady.  In other words,some days you produce more than others.  Because of our stressful lifestyles, polluted environment, and over-medicated society, this generation must deal with more free radicals than any previous generation that has ever walked the face of the earth.  If you want to prevent oxidative stress, you need to have more antioxidants available along with their supporting nutrients than the number of free radicals you produce.  You see, we are not defenseless against this process. Antioxidants are the answer.  The question is whether or not we are able to get all the antioxidants we need from our food.  This was the question I had to answer for myself and the reason that I wrote my book What Your Doctor Doesn’t Know about Nutritional Medicine.   After spending over 2 years reviewing the medical literature, I concluded that the only way you have a chance of preventing oxidative stress is by taking high quality, complete and balanced nutritional supplements that provide, what I refer to as, cellular nutrition.  If you have not read my book or listened to any of my CD’s on this subject, I would certainly encourage you to do just that.  The medical references are detailed in my books and provide the medical evidence that demands a verdict—should you be taking nutritional supplements?
History of Nutritional Medicine      
Overthe past half century, nutritional medicine has been practiced with thebelief that you had to determine what nutrients in which you weredeficient and then supplement that particular nutrient.  It became veryobvious to me early on in my research that the underlying problem mostof us are facing is not a nutritional deficiency, but instead, theresult of oxidative stress.  It was also apparent to me that medication, which actually increases the production of free radicals, would never be the answer to preventing any of these diseases.  Also ifthis was the case, the goal had to be to provide the nutrients that were necessary to build up our body’s natural antioxidant defense system so that you did not develop oxidative stress.  It became so apparent to me that our bodies, not the drugs I could prescribe, were the best defense against developing any of these diseases.  The problemis NOT a nutritional deficiency.  The problem is oxidative stress.
Modern Nutritional Research
Today’s research is focused on trying to find the magic bullet in regards to a particular disease.  For example, there were many studies that showed that those smokers who had the highest antioxidant levels in their blood stream had a significantly lower risk of developing lung cancer than those smokers who had the lowest level of antioxidants.  Most of the researchers felt that it was primarily due to the high levels of beta carotene.  So they decided to do a study and supplement a large number of smokers with just beta carotene.  They were dismayed when they found that the group that received the beta carotene alone actually had a higher incidence of lung cancer than the control group. This led researchers and the media to actually claim that beta carotene was dangerous and should not be taken in supplementation in smokers.  Are view of the same data reported a couple of years later showed that those smokers who had the highest levels of total antioxidants in their blood stream had a significantly decreased risk of developing lung cancer compared to those who had the lowest levels of antioxidants.
       Beta carotene is NOT a drug.  It is merely a nutrient that we get from our food; however, because of supplementation we are now able to get it at levels you cannot obtain from your food.  Beta carotene works in only certain parts of the body and against only certain kinds of free radicals.  Beta carotene needs the other antioxidants along with the antioxidant minerals and B cofactors in order to do its job effectively.  However, researchers are focused on trying to find the magic bullet instead of stepping back and understanding the basic principles and concepts of cellular nutrition.  The amazing thing is how so many of these studies that look at just one or possibly two nutrients actually show a health benefit.  What would the health benefit be if you would put all of these nutrients together at these optimal levels?  Enter in the concept of cellular nutrition.
Concept of Cellular Nutrition
There are over 180 epidemiologic studies (studies that involve a very largenumber of people) that all show the very same thing.  Those individualswho have the highest levels of total antioxidants in their bodycompared with those who have the lowest levels have a 2- to 3-fold decrease risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and even Alzheimer’sdementia.  Obviously, those individuals who consume more of the freshfruits and vegetables, which contain a large amount of theseantioxidants, had the highest levels of antioxidants in their body. This only makes logical sense when you understand the concept ofoxidative stress as being the root cause of over 70 of these chronic degenerative diseases.  Therefore, a physician would conclude the bestthing that they could advise their patients to do is to be consuming atleast 8 to 12 servings of fresh whole fruits and vegetables each andevery day.  The second best thing would be to recommend high quality,complete and balanced nutritional supplements that provided cellularnutrition.
       Cellular nutrition would be defined as providing ALL of the micronutrients to the cell at these optimal or advanced levels that have been shown to provide a health benefit in our medicalliterature.  In other words, you would want your supplementation to be balanced and complete, much like a healthy diet is. The only difference is the fact that, unlike today’s food supply, supplementation can provide all of these nutrients at optimal levels.  We all need to be supplementing a healthy diet; however, because of our stressful lifestyles, polluted environment, and over-medicated society we do needto be supplementing.
       Cellular nutrition has been shown in our medical literature to build up our body’s natural immune system, antioxidant system, and repair system.  You not only replenish any nutritional deficiency within 6 months of supplementation, but you also optimize all of the body’s micronutrients.  You are given the absolute best chance to reverse or prevent any oxidative stress and protect your health.  You see, nutritional supplementation is really about health—not disease.  Nutritional supplements are natural to the body and the nutrients the body requires to function at its optimal level.
       Every man, woman, and child needs to be supplementing a healthy diet and be involved in a modest exercise program.  This is the key to protecting and maintaining your health.  However, what if you have already lost your health and have developed one of these chronic degenerative diseases?  Does supplementation provide any hope?  This is the question that I had to answer for myself and for my patients.  This has been the focus of my practice for the past 11 years and why I have developed my online practice located at www.drraystrand.com.

摘自：http://www.drraystrand.com/nutritional-medicine.asp

[ 本帖最后由 jinreung 于 23-6-2008 04:43 PM 编辑 ]

jinreung

The Concept of Synergy       
The medical literature had showed me over and over again that those patients who were already suffering from a chronic degenerative disease like rheumatoid arthritis, MS, or diabetes actually had significantly more oxidative stress than the normal, healthy patient.  Cellular nutrition is generally adequate to help someone who is in excellent health; however, it would not be enough supplementation to bring oxidative stress under control in someone who is already suffering from a major disease.
       It became very apparent to me early on that if you were going to be able to have any effect on improving the health of someone who was already suffering from cancer, heart disease, macular degeneration, diabetes, macular degeneration, and the like that you would have to truly optimize every aspect of the body’s natural defense systems.  I quickly began to realize that by placing all of my patients on basic cellular nutrition, I was able to create a synergistic effect.  Vitamin E is a great antioxidant within the cell membrane.  Vitamin C is a great antioxidant within the plasma. Glutathione is the best intracellular antioxidant.  However, all of these antioxidants needed the antioxidant minerals and B cofactors to do their job well.  Also, vitamin C was able to replenish vitamin E so it could be used over and over again.  Alpha lipoic acid, another great antioxidant, was able to regenerate both vitamin E and glutathione.  I found that 1 plus 1 was no longer 2, but instead, 8 or 10. This powerful approach allowed me a much better chance of bringing oxidative stress back under control.
        Once my patients were consuming my recommendations of cellular nutrition, I simply began adding enhancers to their nutritional supplement regime.  I began looking for the most potent antioxidants that were available.  Grape seed extract was found to be 50 times more potent than vitamin E and 20times more potent than vitamin C at handling oxidative stress.  CoQ10was not only a very important antioxidant but has been found to significantly boost our natural immune system and help provide increased energy for the cell to function at its optimal level.  Other nutrients like glucosamine sulfate, saw palmetto, phytonutrients,additional vitamin E, calcium, magnesium in various illnesses produced amazing results.
        Over the past 12 years, I have learned how to best support my patients’ natural defenses and allow them the best chance to take back control of their health.  Again, it is all about balance.  I want my patients who are already suffering from an illness to also bring oxidative stress back under control.  This is my entire goal.  Then and only then do they have a chance to see their health improve.  By combining cellular nutrition with specific enhancers, I give all my patients the best chance of bringing oxidative stress back under control.  The results that I have seen in my medical practice using these principles have been nothing short of amazing and something that I had never witnessed in my first 20 plus years of medical practice.
        Now, I want to share a couple of precautions that I have learned along the way.  First, nutritional medicine is not like taking drugs.  It takes a minimum of 6 months to build up the body’s natural defenses and many of my patients did not even begin to see any improvements in their health until after 6months.  Not everyone responds to my recommendations; however, I feel the majority of my patients have had significant health improvements when they followed these recommendations.  None of my patients were cured of their underlying illness. Nutritional supplementation is not an alternative or substitute for traditional medical care.  You should never quit taking any medication prescribed by your doctor without his or her consent and direction.  Many of my patients have been able to decrease their dependence of medication and in some cases even discontinue some of their medication.  However, this is always because of a significant positive improvement in their health and under the direction of their personal physician.
        It is my mission in life to spread these health concepts and help as many people as I can.  This is why I have developed my online medical practice at www.drraystrand.com.  I would encourage you to take advantage of this website and share the potential health benefits of following my recommendations either to protect your health or possibly even to regain your health if you have already lost it.
摘自：http://www.drraystrand.com/nutritional-medicine.asp

[ 本帖最后由 jinreung 于 23-6-2008 05:57 PM 编辑 ]

轻瞄弹写

没有人说是治疗。。是营养让身体细胞自行修复痊愈。
营养提高了免疫力，而且吃得健康，慢性病就不会找上你

Gunnerman

原帖由 轻瞄弹写 于 24-6-2008 02:02 AM 发表
没有人说是治疗。。是营养让身体细胞自行修复痊愈。
营养提高了免疫力，而且吃得健康，慢性病就不会找上你

英雄所見略同。。。。

jinreung

原帖由 轻瞄弹写 于 24-6-2008 02:02 发表
没有人说是治疗。。是营养让身体细胞自行修复痊愈。
营养提高了免疫力，而且吃得健康，慢性病就不会找上你

只是提醒这里的一些人，别之顾着推销他们的产品而忽略了这一点。
还有要提醒这里的一些人，别乱乱叫人家停。

轻瞄弹写

不要把所有的传直销人当作是推销产品
不要把自己的想象力强加在别人身上
origada

jinreung

原帖由 轻瞄弹写 于 24-6-2008 13:07 发表
不要把所有的传直销人当作是推销产品
不要把自己的想象力强加在别人身上
origada

没办法。你们给我们什么印象，我们就会有什么印象。

轻瞄弹写

你想过多了，医生。。念医是很大压力的。

shanghanlun

看过病的大概都知道营养知识会有多少！！！多问两句就会脸臭臭，不这样，如再被问下去，很可能就会。。。。。。

事实胜于雄辩

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事实胜于雄辩

原帖由 jinreung 于 24-6-2008 01:42 PM 发表

没办法。你们给我们什么印象，我们就会有什么印象。

你的想法很正常，有太多只为了卖产品而没有责任的直销人。。但不是所有。
但直销的产品有些真的很好，不要因为对直销的偏见而抹煞了可以帮到人的产品。

jinreung

原帖由 事实胜于雄辩 于 24-6-2008 14:12 发表


你的想法很正常，有太多只为了卖产品而没有责任的直销人。。但不是所有。
但直销的产品有些真的很好，不要因为对直销的偏见而抹煞了可以帮到人的产品。

产品都是一样，不同的是在于品牌而已。别在这里说“某某产品真的很好‘这样的话，这只有肤浅的直销人才会说的。要就说说那产品为什么好、怎样好法，而且还要对那个产品细微的东西有深入的了解，不然无法让人信服。
最讨厌的是：有些人老是讲到他们的产品有多好，天上有地上无似的，结果在就追问下去却什么都讲不出，老是兜花园，最后还老羞成怒说别人带着有色眼光看他们bla bla bla～
我通常是不会在还没有跟一个人讲话之前来个impression（我也没酱厉害），我只会从他们的言行举止中获取对他们的impression。之后他们要改变我对他们的impression，就要一行动来让我对他们改观，不然就no way。
还就说到那么多。我这番话并不是只讲给一个人听。我在讲谁，那个人心里应该会知道，除非那个人肤浅到连自知之明都没有，那我就没话说。

事实胜于雄辩

我不是什么专业人士，所以不能乱讲话。。
我介绍你到某某餐馆吃东西，因为它的食物不错。。
你问我怎样煮，放什么原料，你要我如何答你？

jinreung

原帖由 事实胜于雄辩 于 24-6-2008 15:59 发表
我不是什么专业人士，所以不能乱讲话。。
我介绍你到某某餐馆吃东西，因为它的食物不错。。
你问我怎样煮，放什么原料，你要我如何答你？

你是他的代理，你不懂就该打屁屁了。
比如说你直销的是Vitamin C，你知道它如何好法，它有什么side effect，要吃多少，却连Vitamin C是什么都不懂，这是不是要打屁屁？

事实胜于雄辩

那我去学煮后才告诉你。。
消费者关心的是产品能不能帮到他，不是里面有什么成份。。
我们所学的只是营养知识，不是营养成份。
等以后我要开间营养厂才学吧。。。。

jinreung

原帖由 事实胜于雄辩 于 24-6-2008 16:10 发表
那我去学煮后才告诉你。。
消费者关心的是产品能不能帮到他，不是里面有什么成份。。
我们所学的只是营养知识，不是营养成份。
等以后我要开间营养厂才学吧。。。。

你连那营养是什么都不懂，就别说它怎样好，怎样帮到别人了。
所谓的营养知识，是包括认识那营养是什么，里面有什么成分。
肤浅的直销人，跟负责的直销人的分别，就在于此。

[ 本帖最后由 jinreung 于 24-6-2008 04:17 PM 编辑 ]

事实胜于雄辩

时间会证明一切。。。记得我的名字。