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中共国是工业化国家的敌人

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 楼主| 发表于 18-7-2024 08:17 AM | 显示全部楼层
garrod 发表于 12-7-2024 02:59 PM
實錘了,中共膠大量傾銷沒有內需的中共膠的貨。


看,在发达国家对中共国展开保护主义后,发展中国家也开始保护主义了。

我们来看东南亚国家的反应:

Malaysia braces for the impact of competition stemming from China’s overcapacity (focusmalaysia.my)

Protectionism against Chinese goods which is usually the trade affairs of advanced economies is now spreading to some countries in Asia.


ASEAN’S reaction

Surging Chinese goods are also exerting impact on her ASEAN trading partners.  The Federation of Thai SMEs wants its Commerce Ministry to review import tax rate and also impose a value-added tax on imported Chinese products to protect Thai manufacturers from the flooding of cheap Chinese goods.

It also requests the Board of Investment to review the privileges granted to Chinese companies whose investments do not really benefit Thailand and Thai SMEs.

Indonesia will soon impose import tariffs ranging between 100% and 200% on Chinese goods to mitigate effects of the on-going trade war between China and the US.

A regulation is being drafted to address concerns raised by stakeholders about the inadequacies of earlier regulations regarding protecting local industries from the influx of Chinese-made products.

Back home, Malaysian domestic businesses, especially SMEs, have expressed concerns about the impact of Chinese businesses in low value and tech goods, retail, trading services and restaurants as well as sub-contracting of construction and property development.

China has been Malaysia’s largest trading partner of Malaysia for 15 consecutive years since 2009, boasting a 17.1% market share of Malaysia’s total external trade in 2023.

Malaysia has incurred a widening trade deficit with China for 12 consecutive years (an average of RM33.1 bil per year) since 2012.

Since 1980, China’s accumulated realised investments in the manufacturing sector amounted to RM74.2 bil as of December 2023. Malaysia has nevertheless indirectly benefited from China+1 strategy and the US-China trade war due to the re-location and re-configuration of supply chains in the semiconductor industry, rubber products, solar panels, LNG, plastics, petroleum and palm oil.

China enterprises and businesses (either wholly-owned or joint-ventures with Malaysians) are investing and doing business in a variety of sectors such as manufacturing, information technology, construction, education, restaurants, eateries, cafes, and milk tea shops.



东南亚某国,是连续12年对中国逆差,几个五毛小粉红还企图支持中国货呢!
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 楼主| 发表于 18-7-2024 08:31 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 tuaceng 于 18-7-2024 08:33 AM 编辑


Malaysia braces for the impact of competition stemming from China’s overcapacity (focusmalaysia.my)
以下是国家社会和经济研究中心的发表,如何应对中国货的倾销。

Potential solutions

Below are six policy options that are capable of managing the impact of China’s overcapacity while protecting domestic industries and encouraging domestic production as well as the utilisation of local raw materials.

学发达国家,直接对中国货加关税
Erection of tariff barriers on imported Chinese products: But this would lead to retaliation, having inflationary effect on consumers, besides not in conformity of free trade practices as China and ASEAN member countries are signatories of multi-lateral trade agreements such as the ASEAN and China Free Trade Agreement (ACFTA) and the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP).
Moreover, it requires cost and efforts to conduct formal anti-dumping investigations and the use of countervailing duties (CVDs).

要求中国在当地的企业聘请当地员工
Employing local content requirements (LCRs): This is an ideal way to promote domestic industry and employment or encourage domestic innovation. It could also bring about a win-win solution by ensuring that Chinese firms provide opportunities to local SMEs for manufacturing activities, supply chain integration and downstream services.

扶持高端工业,减少低端工业
Striking balance between economic and geopolitical priorities: While Chinese high-tech industries such as semiconductor, automation, artificial intelligence (AI) and digitalisation as well as EVs are needed to help support high-value tech-up industrial development, low-tech industries and products that domestic SMEs are capable to manufacture should be discouraged.

外资进来投资,就必须以也有出口赚外国的钱的目的,而不是只赚本地人的钱
Review a Negative List which “prohibits” or “restricts” certain industries for foreign investment purposes: Other measures include a review of capital requirements and licensing requirements for foreign firms entering into or expanding in economic sectors such as trading, retail and selected services. Limit the number of foreign firms’ producing goods that can be sold in domestic market or ensure that the products must be 100% for export.

购买国货,提振本国企业,就业,带动本国经济
Promoting import substitutions policy: This is to reduce over-reliance on Chinese imported intermediate and final goods through fiscal incentives and local content expenses deductions. Switching towards domestic sourcing encourages the growth of domestically produced intermediate and capital goods.
Continue to forge smart partnerships between domestic and Chinese enterprises: The ultimate aim of this initiative is to achieve a win-win business cooperation for the sharing of economic prosperity. – July 15, 2024


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发表于 18-7-2024 10:15 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
学发达国家,直接对中国货加关税。
要求中国在当地的企业聘请当地员工。✓
扶持高端工业,减少低端工业。
外资进来投资,就必须以也有出口赚外国的钱的目的,而不是只赚本地人的钱。✓
购买国货,提振本国企业,就业,带动本国经济。✓

以上我打勾✓的大馬政府的確有做到其他沒打勾的很看不出。
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 楼主| 发表于 18-7-2024 12:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
garrod 发表于 18-7-2024 10:15 AM
学发达国家,直接对中国货加关税。
要求中国在当地的企业聘请当地员工。✓
扶持高端工业,减少低端工业。

我觉得做不够。

学发达国家,直接对中国货加关税
鼓励各国退出RCEP,对中国货加关税,除非中国也买同等价值的工业产品
电子商务免税区 Digital Free Trade Zone(DfTZ)绝对要取消



要求中国在当地的企业聘请当地员工
必须加上:除非本地请不到的技术人员,才从中国调过来,他们还要给本地员工进行培训,在一定时间内提升本地员工的技能。就像欧美日韩台当初如何培训中国员工那样。circular economy
供应商呢,以本地供应商优先。那个国产车为了压低成本而逼本地供应商降价,不然就换成中国供应商的做法,必须禁止。circular economy
从最近的距离寻找供应商,以减低碳排放。climate change

扶持高端工业,减少低端工业
人家印尼,越南,泰国,印度,墨西哥等,都已经布局中高端工业。还有一些国家还在混日子。

外资进来投资,就必须以也有出口赚外国的钱的目的,而不是只赚本地人的钱。
本地产品在出口的时候,就和中国货在国际上竞争。为了让中国货可以继续垄断,中国资本就入股本地公司。然后要求本地公司不再出口,通通只把货卖给本地。而中国货就畅通无阻的在全世界流通,不再有竞争者。这点呢,也要禁止。

购买国货,提振本国企业,就业,带动本国经济
这个有赖本地消费者更多购买国货。他们必须知道,每购买外国货,就是让本地工业类的专业人士,工程师,技术人员,研究人员等的就业机会更少。
本地企业倒闭,裁员,降本,本地人们的就业机会少,失业率高,大家就越来越穷。


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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2024 07:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
发达国家保护主义进行后,各发展中国家也开始保护主义了。

印尼泰国突然出手,瞄准中国跨境电商
2024-07-11

6月28日,印尼贸易部长祖尔基弗利·哈桑突然宣布,印尼即将对鞋类、服装、纺织品、化妆品和陶瓷等进口产品征收100%至200%的保障性关税,重启保护国内产业的计划。

哈桑认为,由于全球贸易格局的变动,中国产品出现供过于求的情况,因此被迫将出口转向印尼等国。哈桑表示,美国可以对进口产品加征高额关税,印尼也可以这样做,以确保中小企业的生存。不过,印尼官方随后澄清,此举不针对任何国家,更不针对中国。对此,外交部新闻发言人林剑7月11日表示,中方将密切关注印尼方针对特定产品后续可能征收的保障性关税,并采取必要措施维护企业的正当权益。

印尼官方数据显示,2023年,中国是印尼最大的贸易伙伴国,既是第一大进口国也是第一大出口国。尽管印尼表示加税不针对中国,但中国商家受到的冲击无疑将是最大的。

印尼官方还在5月底对阿里巴巴集团旗下电商平台Lazada及腾讯参股的新加坡电商平台Shopee展开反垄断调查。Shopee和Lazada都被指控涉嫌垄断,一旦被判定存在垄断行为,公司可能面临最高相当于其违规期间净利润 50% 或销售额 10% 的罚款。

Shopee和Lazada是东南亚地区最大的两个电商平台。Business of Apps数据显示,Shopee占东南亚市场份额的45%,Lazada占19%。两大电商平台上销售的商品大部分来自中国。以泰国为例,有报道称,目前泰国两大电商平台上销售的商品60%至70%来自中国。

值得注意的是,印尼是东南亚最大的电商市场,且为世界第四人口大国。印尼是东南亚各国中为抵制中国廉价商品潮走得最远的一国,它的一系列动作表明中国跨境电商近年来在东南亚的快速扩张之路已经遭遇越来越强大的阻力,且不排除其他东盟国家效仿。

事实上,东南亚其他国家也动作频频。据泰国中华网7月1日报道,泰国增值税公平法案于7月5日起正式生效。这意味着跨境电商平台销售的定价低于1500铢(约合300元人民币)的商品不再享受免税待遇,低价进口商品和泰国商家出售的所有定价商品都将被公平地课征7%的增值税。

在增值税公平法案生效之前,泰国规定价值不超过 1500 铢的商品可享受关税和 7% 增值税的豁免,目的是为了促进跨境电商的发展,降低本地消费者的购物成本。

泰国官方统计数据显示,2024财年前8个月,从国外进口价值不超过1500铢的商品合计8900万件,总价值260亿铢,其中绝大多数商品申报价值不超过1500铢。进入泰国的商品品种繁多,包含服装、鞋袜、儿童玩具、电子设备和电器、化妆品以及运动器材等等,商品大多来自中国

由于背靠强大的供应链,中国进口商品往往在与泰国本地商家的竞争中占据优势,售价有时还不到泰国本土商品的三分之一,这促使当地制造商最终寻求政府的干预。泰国总理赛塔曾在社交媒体上发文称,中国产品的大量涌入损害了当地制造商的利益,他们无法在价格上与中国产品竞争

泰国政府的加税行动也并非个案,新加坡、马来西亚、印尼等国此前都已经出台了类似的政策。马来西亚政府规定,今年1月1日起对所有售价不超过500林吉特(约143新加坡元)的外国商品征收10%的销售税。马来西亚《星报》调查发现,这项税务政策实施后,外国卖家在电商平台销售的低价商品,价格已普遍上涨2林吉特至20林吉特不等。不少民众认为,征税将加重人们的经济负担。

印尼政府更是一刀切地规定跨境电商平台不得销售100美元(约合730元人民币)以下的进口商品。东盟十国中的另一主要经济体越南也在6月提出要对跨境电商小额包裹采用10%的增值税税率。综上,东南亚小额包裹免税时代即将结束

尽管如此,有分析人士认为,这一行动仍然无法阻止中国廉价商品疯狂涌入东南亚各国。不过对廉价商品收税可能仅仅只是开始,最后或许会不可避免地走向贸易摩擦。



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发表于 24-7-2024 10:00 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
tuaceng 发表于 24-7-2024 07:53 AM
发达国家保护主义进行后,各发展中国家也开始保护主义了。

印尼泰国突然出手,瞄准中国跨境电商

中共膠不止傾銷還搞dumping了。
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