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发表于 17-5-2006 10:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 suelin 于 12-5-2006 11:31 PM 发表
事先声明,我没有恶意.....

我本身刚看那本书到CHAPTER 62...只是好奇到底是他们错还是BIBLE呢???
里面有声明说BIBLE也是人写的而不是从天上掉下来或之类,更不是JESUS写的
那到底有什么根据说BIBLE是正确而那 ...


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对于你的提问,我只能说是作者的穿凿附会,将一些本来没有关联的事实,连接起来,说得有声有色.
我已经看了这本小说3遍了,从第一遍的震惊,到第二遍的领会,再到第3遍的纯粹温习(因为在营会里带密码游戏,想教导弟兄姐妹关于这部戏会带给我们基督徒的影响),间中我做了很多RESEARCH,我本身觉得是客观的,因为我并不是单纯的只看来自基督徒学者的观点,同时也有包括艺术学者的观点,DAN BROWN的这本小说真的是很精彩,但是他在书前表示的,他所引用的证据都是真的,这就有待商榷.

韦小宝说谎为什么可以骗了那么多人,因为他说的9成是真的,但是有1成是假的,或者是全都是真的,但是隐瞒了一些事实,这就可以更容易的取信于民.DAN BROWN就是这样的一个例子.

我会去看,正如我之前说的,我们基督徒应该把它看为一个福音契机.就算没打算传福音,也可以在别人提问时,可以作为捍卫信仰的勇士,向被误导的人说出真话.

对于天主教在于我们新教徒的观点里,我只能说是遗憾的,我真的也想接纳天主教的教义,因为本是同根生的缘故,但是在基础上的教义相同,但在延伸上有不同,就造成了我不敢苟同.我想我们新教徒有时候的强硬可能真的来自于误解,而我上天堂时,会问上帝为什么不把圣经写得更清楚一些,好让我这个苯人可以更容易看得懂.所以我对天主教的"不敢苟同"是来自于自己,(但我并不代表所有新教徒),求神可以在新天新地时,取笑我的无知吧
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发表于 19-5-2006 06:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 e=mc2 于 11-5-2006 12:15 发表
换一个角度来看,如果一个导演拍侮辱比如霍元甲的戏,你认为霍元甲的后人会去捧场,让它唱丰收吗?

我认为我们身为基督徒,不该去支持这戏。



所以霍元甲的后人要起诉这套"霍元甲"电影。相信耶穌如果有後代 ,他们会有同样的举动。

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发表于 19-5-2006 06:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
像这样的戏,只不过是一个响大炮,如果没有圣经旧约,那么那里来的耶稣,或这部戏?

这部戏就是接着圣经旧约来摧毁圣经的新约。

弄乱基督徒对弥赛亚的存在。

那么又为什么不说“整本圣经是假的呢?”,事实很简单,世界没有一个事物可以脱离法的原则,每个事物都有一个rules and regulations.比如地球的地心吸引力的法,人类的法律。。。

事实人类的法律怎样都是不完美,就算一个人做完整个世界,那么那个人说的就是对的吗?给一个王位他当世界的王,他自己也无法取代“一切的公义”,他只不过是一个平常的人。科技多高明也不过如此。

世界上只有一本书记载了“不以自己的名,不以人类的名”说公义的道,那就是圣经。

人有权柄原谅自己的过失吗?这是事实。

人能够以自己的名来原谅自己吗?

如果能够,那么法律拿来干吗?

这是事实的讨论。

到底人能不能够以自己原谅自己的罪,自己制定权丙原谅。

假如世界没有法律,那么他这样做,那么他把自己当这法律。

对吗?

这是事实的讨论。

那么以事实来说,到底人的权柄有没有这样的权柄存在?

是以自己的名呢?还是以“一切公义盟约之信的名(耶稣)”呢?

谁又可以取代一切公义呢?演独角戏?

耶稣可没有演独角戏,耶稣也是奉父的名说道。
圣经众多先知也是以耶和华之名说道。
在圣经里没有任何一个人以自己的名“说道”,“行道”。

谁竟敢自己演独角戏,然后自己说,然后他人说呢?



这部电影说的是以圣经旧约为基础,既然说的那么真,那么的大声,那么就以圣经旧约的100%的道来说回:

以赛亚先知是旧约先知,既然这部戏觉得自己也是100%,那么如果不能够解脱以赛亚先知记载的事实,那么也不是一场“空说”。

以下全部都是以赛亚书记载的,要就100%:

耶稣第一次来到世界
以 賽 亞 書 7
13 以 賽 亞 說 : 大 衛 家 啊 , 你 們 當 聽 ! 你 們 使 人 厭 煩 豈 算 小 事 , 還 要 使 我 的   神 厭 煩 嗎 ?14 因 此 , 主 自 己 要 給 你 們 一 個 兆 頭 , 必 有 童 女 懷 孕 生 子 , 給 他 起 名 叫 以 馬 內 利 ( 就 是 神 與 我 們 同 在 的 意 思 ) 。


以色列复国
以 賽 亞 書 11
12 他 必 向 列 國 豎 立 大 旗 , 招 回 以 色 列 被 趕 散 的 人 , 又 從 地 的 四 方 聚 集 分 散 的 猶 大 人 。


耶稣被钉十字架
以 賽 亞 書 53
5 哪 知 他 為 我 們 的 過 犯 受 害 , 為 我 們 的 罪 孽 壓 傷 。 因 他 受 的 刑 罰 , 我 們 得 平 安 ; 因 他 受 的 鞭 傷 , 我 們 得 醫 治 。


耶稣第二次来到世界
以 賽 亞 書 63
3 我 獨 自 踹 酒 醡 ; 眾 民 中 無 一 人 與 我 同 在 。 我 發 怒 將 他 們 踹 下 , 發 烈 怒 將 他 們 踐 踏 。 他 們 的 血 濺 在 我 衣 服 上 , 並 且 污 染 了 我 一 切 的 衣 裳 。4 因 為 , 報 仇 之 日 在 我 心 中 ; 救 贖 我 民 之 年 已 經 來 到 。



这个世界有没有以色列呢?

这个世界既然有以色列,也因为以色列的复国预言之前,预言了耶稣的第一次来到,除非以色列没有复国,也没有以色列这个国家,那么先知以赛亚说的是假的,既然先知说的是真的,那么以色列也是事实,那么耶稣第一次来到也是事实,那么被钉十字架也是事实,整本圣经新约也是事实。

那么请问那部什么戏是不是在说骗话呢?

除非没有圣经,除非没有以色列这个国家,要说就说100%的道。那些以耶稣的名来赚钱的,和犹大以耶稣来赚钱的有什么分别?

馬 太 福 音 12
36 我 又 告 訴 你 們 , 凡 人 所 說 的 閒 話 , 當 審 判 的 日 子 , 必 要 句 句 供 出 來 ;

歌 羅 西 書 2
8 你 們 要 謹 慎 , 恐 怕 有 人 用 他 的 理 學 和 虛 空 的 妄 言 , 不 照 著 基 督 , 乃 照 人 間 的 遺 傳 和 世 上 的 小 學 就 把 你 們 擄 去 。


请问,以色列复国难道不是事实吗?
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发表于 19-5-2006 07:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实我在想,这一部戏是否是我们基督徒把它给炒红了呢最近都是在讨论这一部戏,连手机都会有这样的信息,说为着这一部戏来祷告,希望不会有基督徒去看,免得被影响,这祷告是不错啦,但是。。。要来的,它总会来,如果不是真正对自己信仰认真的信徒,就算没有这部戏,也会因着其他的事情而怀疑、不信、跌倒。这一部戏我会去看,说真的,这其实是一部好戏吖,当然看与不看是个人的决定,在这边是要勉励初信者,如果你看了这一部戏而有疑问,请不要随意听取意见,最好是去找你的牧者,千万别自己找答案噢分分钟你会被狮子盯上被吞吃掉,那可是真的死的有够冤~愿与所有弟兄姐妹共勉之
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发表于 19-5-2006 10:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
The reason why I don't read the&#194;  Da VInci Code

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    > > 20 Big Lies in the Da Vinci Code
    > >
    > > By James A. Beverley
    > >
    > > Source:
    > >
    > > Don't be fooled. Here are just a few ways Dan Brown's best-selling
    > > book twists and distorts the truth of the gospel.
    > >
    > > In a little more than three years The Da Vinci Code has become the
    >best-selling adult novel of all time. It has also become the subject of
    >intense debate among Christians because of its radical claims that
    >undermine basic Christianity. Why all the fuss over a work of fiction? The
    >answer lies on Page 1, where author Dan Brown asserts that "all
    >descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in
    >this novel are accurate."
    > >
    > > In reality, the novel is a model of inaccuracy in almost every subject
    > > it addresses. Critics have noted its mistakes in mathematics, French
    > > geography and even the layout of the Louvre. More important, Brown's
    > > jarring claims about Jesus, the Bible, secret societies and ritual sex
    > > are based on shallow research, sloppy investigation and careless
    >thought.
    > > However, given the novel's popularity and the staggering bravado in
    > > its tone, it is necessary for Christians to provide a critique of its
    > > central blunders.
    > >
    > > Here are 20 of them.
    > >
    > > 1.The Bible was invented by Roman Emperor Constantine in the fourth
    > > century.
    > >
    > > The Da Vinci Code reports that "Constantine commissioned and financed a
    >new Bible," one that left out the Gnostic texts and included the four
    > > traditional Gospels. In fact, Constantine had nothing to do with the
    >making of the Christian canon. He is not even mentioned in the standard
    >Cambridge History of the Bible. The traditional Gospels were recognized by
    >virtually all Christians 150 years before Constantine.
    > >
    > > 2. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gnostic Gospels are the "earliest
    > > Christian records."
    > >
    > > Not so. The Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947 and date from 250
    >B.C. to A.D. 100. However, these documents have virtually nothing to do
    >with Christianity but with various Jewish groups, rituals and ideas before
    >and during the time of Christ. The Gnostic Gospels offer a
    > > twisted and heretical version of the Christian faith, but they didn't
    > > come into existence until about a century or more after the death of
    > > Christ. The earliest Christian records are the writings of the New
    >Testament.
    > >
    > > 3. The Gnostic Gospels present a positive view of the feminine.
    > >
    > > The Gnostic texts are said to picture a human, sexualized Jesus who
    > > embraced the sacred feminine. Actually, the Jesus presented in the
    > > Gnostic material is often simply weird, and the underlying ideology
    >tends to >
    > > be radically anti-feminine. Consider this bizarre passage from the
    >Gospel
    > > of Thomas: "Simon Peter said to them, 'Make Mary leave us, for females
    > > don't deserve life.' Jesus said, 'Look, I will guide her to make her
    >male,
    > > so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For
    > > every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven .'"
    > >
    > > 4. Early Christians did not believe Jesus was God's Son.
    > >
    > > This is a bizarre claim, rooted in either willful ignorance or blindness
    >to the obvious. After 2,000 years, people continue to debate whether Jesus
    >is the Son of God. But what has never been subject to doubt is that early
    >Christians confessed that Jesus is God's Son, as the following Scriptures
    >indicate: "Simon Peter answered and said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of
    >the living God'" (Matt. 16:16 ); "But when the fullness of the time had
    >come, God sent forth His Son" (Gal. 4:4).
    > >
    > > 5. The Council of Nicea ( A.D. 325) invented the divinity of Jesus.
    > >
    > > Contrary to Brown's claim, the famous church council met to clarify
    > > the divinity of Jesus, not create it. There are thousands of references
    >to
    > > the divinity of Jesus in Christian literature and archaeology before the
    > > Council at Nicea. This includes the hundreds of claims in the New
    > > Testament and the witness of early church leaders through the second
    > > and third centuries.
    > >
    > > 6. Jesus was really a pagan or a witch.
    > >
    > > No standard reference works on witchcraft ever include Jesus as a
    > > witch or pagan. The novel attempts to argue that Jesus was a copycat
    >figure of
    > > ancient pagan deities. This view depends on totally ignoring the Jewish
    >context of the life and teaching of Jesus. If Jesus had been a pagan or a
    >witch, this would have been noticed by the Jewish leaders who opposed Him.
    > >
    > > 7. Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.
    > >
    > > The novel claims that there are "countless references" to their union
    > > in ancient history and that the topic "has been explored ad nauseam by
    > > modern historians." First, there is nothing in the New Testament or
    >other
    > > first century material about such a marriage. Second, there is no
    >explicit
    > > mention of the alleged marriage in the Gnostic material of the second
    > > and third centuries. All we have in the Gnostic material is one
    >reference
    > > to Mary as the "companion" of Jesus. That word, however, does not
    >usually
    > > mean "spouse" or "wife."
    > >
    > > 8. Jesus and Mary had a child named Sarah.
    > >
    > > The novel claims Mary was pregnant at the time of the death of Jesus.
    > > Joseph of Arimathea, her uncle, helped her move to France. There she
    > > gave birth to a girl she named Sarah. Mary and Sarah found refuge in
    >the
    > > Jewish community in France. We are told that "countless scholars of that
    >era
    > > chronicled Mary Magdalene's days in France ." This is nothing but
    >historical junk first made popular by the 1982 potboiler Holy Blood, Holy
    >Grail. There are no ancient documents supporting any of these claims, and
    >no scholars of that era chronicled these alleged events.
    > >
    > > 9. There was a smear campaign against Mary Magdalene in Catholic
    > > tradition.
    > >
    > > To the contrary, Mary Magdalene receives positive attention in the
    > > Bible and in Catholic tradition. In fact, she is regarded as a saint,
    >and her Feast
    > > Day is July 22. As a close disciple of Jesus, she was one of the first
    >witnesses of His resurrection. The mistaken view that she was a prostitute
    >did not arise until A.D. 591 when Pope Gregory I confused her with a
    >prostitute mentioned in Luke 7:36 -50.
    > >
    > > 10. A secret society named the Priory of Sion started in 1099 and has
    > > protected the bones of Mary Magdalene and documents about the
    > > bloodline of Jesus Christ.
    > >
    > > This is one of the most significant blunders of The Da Vinci Code. The
    > > Priory of Sion was actually started in France on May 7, 1956 , by a con
    > > artist named Pierre Plantard (1920-2000). The Priory was first a civic>
    > > organization. In the 1960s Plantard created the mythology of a secret
    > > society led by figures such as Isaac Newton and Leonardo da Vinci.
    > >
    > > 11. Ancient documents about the Priory were discovered in the
    > > Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris in 1975.
    > >
    > > The Da Vinci Code refers to these alleged parchments as Les Dossiers
    > > Secrets. These documents are not ancient but are actually forgeries
    > > done by Philippe de Ch&#195;&#169;risey (1925-1985), a co-conspirator with
    >Plantard.
    > > They were not discovered by the French library in 1975 but were placed
    > > there by Plantard in 1967. Both de Ch&#195;&#169;risey and Plantard admitted the
    >hoax before their deaths. In fact, Plantard was forced to admit his fraud
    >before Judge Thierry Jean-Pierre in a French court case in September 1993.
    > >
    > > 12. There are historical lists of the Grand Masters of the Priory of
    > > Sion.
    > >
    > > Actually, when Plantard invented the Priory of Sion he copied most of
    > > his list of Grand Masters from lists of alleged leaders of other groups,
    > > such as the Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, a secret society
    > > founded in America in 1915. Plantard also changed his list of Grand
    >Masters as
    > > he adopted different conspiracy theories about his Priory of Sion.
    > >
    > > 13. The Holy Grail is not the cup used at the Last Supper but the
    > > bones of Mary Magdalene.
    > >
    > > The novel states that "the quest for the Holy Grail is literally the
    >quest to kneel before the bones of Mary Magdalene. A journey to pray at the
    >feet of the outcast one, the lost sacred feminine." The Holy Grail legends
    >started about A.D. 1180 and continued through the 19th century. They never
    >involved claims about the bones of Mary Magdalene. Isn't it amazing that no
    >Priory of Sion member has ever given in to the temptation to reveal the
    >location of the bones of Mary Magdalene?
    > >


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发表于 19-5-2006 10:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
> > 14. The Knights Templar guarded the bones of Mary Magdalene and four
    > > huge chests of ancient documents about the bloodline of Jesus Christ and
    > > the French kings who descended from Him.
    > >
    > > The Knights Templar is a religious military order founded in the early
    > > 12th century. Hugues de Payens, a French Knight, led eight comrades in
    > > the campaign to protect pilgrims to the Holy Land . It has never been
    >argued in the historical material about the Templars that they protected
    >either Mary Magdalene or documents about French kings. These claims are the
    >inventions of Pierre Plantard, who declared at one point that he was the
    >descendant of Jesus and the proper heir to the French throne.
    > >
    > > 15. Leonardo da Vinci was once the Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.
    > >
    > > The Priory started 437 years after the death of the great artist. Not
    > > one Leonardo da Vinci specialist in the entire world has supported the
    > > view that he once headed a pagan sex cult. James Beck of Columbia
    > > University calls this "total nonsense." Leonard da Vinci scholars have
    >convened
    > > special conferences in order to debunk the novel's false claims about
    > > the famous artist.
    > >
    > > 16. Leonardo da Vinci placed Mary Magdalene next to Jesus in his
    > > famous painting The Last Supper.
    > >
    > > In da Vinci's time everyone believed that this person was John, the
    > > beloved disciple. Renaissance art specialists have always noted that
    > > John was painted in a rather effeminate manner. The painting was not
    >meant
    > > to reveal the identity of a woman but the tension created among the
    > > apostles after Jesus says to them, "'One of you will betray Me'" (Matt.
    >26:21).
    > > Of course, even if da Vinci put a woman next to Jesus in his painting,
    > > this would not tell us anything about the real Last Supper more than 14
    > > centuries earlier.
    > >
    > > 17. The Catholic Church killed 5 million women during the Witchcraft
    > > Inquisition.
    > >
    > > The women targeted as witches were freethinkers, scholars, priestesses,
    >gypsies, nature lovers, mystics and midwives. The novel radically
    >misinterprets the nature and scope of the Inquisition. First, both men and
    >women were targeted as witches. Second, the female victims were generally
    >ol> der and were not from any specific class or profession. Third, the
    >deaths totaled no more than 100,000, counting both males and females. Most
    >important, the Inquisition was rooted in the real belief that certain men
    >and women actually worshiped Satan and performed diabolical acts of evil.
    > >
    > > 18. French President Francois Mitterand ordered 666 panes of glass in
    >the pyramid at the front entrance to the Louvre.
    > >
    > > The novel adopts a false rumor that circulated in French society two
    >decades ago. Mitterand did not order 666 panes of glass to be in the
    >pyramid. In fact, the public relations office at the Louvre informed me
    >that the pyramid actually has 673 panes of glass.
    > >
    > > 19. Early Jewish as well as Christian tradition involved sex ritualism
    >in worship.
    > >
    > > There is not a single hint in the entire Old Testament or in Jewish
    >history that sex rites were part of temple worship. Jewish males did not
    >engage in sex with priestesses in the temple. The word "priestess" is not
    >even used in the Old Testament. In the novel Jesus and Mary Magdalene are
    >pictured as the ideal participants in an early Christian sex ritual. This
    >wild claim has no basis in history, either in terms of early Christian
    >tradition or even in reference to Gnostic documents.
    > >
    > > 20 True worship involves sex ritualism.
    > >
    > > The Da Vinci Code states that "historically, intercourse was the act
    > > through which male and female experienced God" and that "by communing
    > > with woman ?> EUR> ? man could achieve a climactic instant when his mind
    >went
    > > totally blank and he could see God." The Da Vinci Code will bring great
    >harm to every innocent religious seeker who follows its endorsement of sex
    >ritual as the path to God. Brown is surely bluffing in his rhetoric about
    >sex in worship. It is impossible to imagine that he really believes his own
    >novel's ideology. Would he be willing to participate in the ancient ritual
    >that The Da Vinci Code defends? Would he really recommend this ancient
    >ritual to his wife, family and friends?
    > > In both book and movie form The Da Vinci Code represents a threat as
    >well
    > > as an opportunity for Christians. Its danger lies in its strident
    >assertions of falsehoods that undermine basic teachings of the gospel.
    >Uninformed readers and moviegoers must be made aware of the historical
    >blunders in Dan Brown's claims. At the same time, the novel and movie
    >create an unprecedented opportunity for believers to witness about the
    >reliability of the Bible and its central redemptive message?> EUR> "that
    >the Son of God became flesh, died on the cross and rose again.
    > >
    > >
    > > James A. Beverley is associate director of the Institute for the Study
    > > of
    > > American Religion in Santa Barbara and professor of Christian Thought
    > > and
    > > Ethics at Tyndale Seminary in Toronto. He is also the author of 10
    > > books,
    > > including Counterfeit Code and Religions A to Z. For information on
    > > his
    > > writings, visit www.jamesbeverley.com.
    > >
    > > "I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify
    > > him
    > > with thanksgiving." Psalms 69:30
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发表于 20-5-2006 01:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 金次郎 于 19-5-2006 06:47 PM 发表
像这样的戏,只不过是一个响大炮,如果没有圣经旧约,那么那里来的耶稣,或这部戏?

这部戏就是接着圣经旧约来摧毁圣经的新约。

弄乱基督徒对弥赛亚的存在。

那么又为什么不说“整本圣经是假的呢?”,事 ...


是啊,以色列复国了.
当圣殿再三重建时,大家应该知道火少屁股了...
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发表于 20-5-2006 09:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
人家出的书已经很很很明显的摆在"Fiction"里了 , 为何大家要杯割它呢?

这就是弟兄们对人的方式? 敌基督的就不得原谅?

对我来说 , 一本好看的书 , 一出大制作的电影我都会去看.

再说这或许也是一个很好的传教机会. 我有很多平时对基督教没兴趣的朋友都变得有兴趣了...

神 可以把所有事情变得美妙 , 不是我们.
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发表于 20-5-2006 09:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
再说 , 弟兄们说的里面有很多谎言啊什么的对我来说都是废话.

说明是fiction难道全部都是真的吗?

全都是真的就被列为纪录片咯...

如果弟兄们不读或不看Da Vinci 因为这个原因的话 , 请以后不要在书店里的科幻部门出现 , 也最好不要在电影院里出现 , 连卡通篇都不要看 , 因为动物会说话是骗人的.
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发表于 20-5-2006 09:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 一条条 于 20-5-2006 09:18 PM 发表
如果弟兄们不读或不看Da Vinci 因为这个原因的话 , 请以后不要在书店里的科幻部门出现 , 也最好不要在电影院里出现 , 连卡通篇都不要看 , 因为动物会说话是骗人的


有些經書流傳多年, 裡面的動物都會說話
蛇, 猴子, 豬, 馬, 老鷹, ...會說話

當作故事書看過就算
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发表于 20-5-2006 10:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
一部电影。。。。当艺术片欣赏不久好吗。。。。。
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发表于 21-5-2006 01:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
看了, 坦白说, 电影的杀伤力没大家预期想像的那么大。完全像个寻宝电影。是有一点深,没什么动作场面。对我来说,只是一部电影。
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发表于 21-5-2006 03:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
对呀。。。


基督在我们心里,我们应该每天欢喜和拥有和平的

心。像E=MC的签名所说的,圣灵的果子。。。

仇恨是属于魔鬼的,别跌入它陷阱

要为那些诽谤基督的人祈祷,求天夫原谅他们。。

要记住我们是世界盐和光!!!!!!

^_____________^
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发表于 21-5-2006 06:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
亲爱的弟兄姐妹们。。
在我们身边所发生的事都是阿爸天父所应允的。。
所谓凡是互相效应。。
而且我相信上帝会让某些事发生,是想成就一些事情吧。。
而且在我们眼里看为坏的事,在天父眼中却是好事。。
因为只有天父才知道那将发生的事。。
所以我们只有好好的祷告让父的旨意行在地上如同行在天上。。
而且弟兄姐妹们。。
在我们看为难成的事。。在天父且没难成的事。。

建议要去看这部戏的弟兄姐妹们。。
好好的向父神祷告吧。。
再不然就找教会的牧者谈谈吧。。
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发表于 21-5-2006 08:41 PM | 显示全部楼层

Fiction, or not?

书是否虚构或事实,并不代表我们应不应该接受,或支持他。

南洋商报 在五月十九日 有一则新闻说到,






在当天,同份报纸,一则小小的报道说到,




的确,事情并非是您想象中的这么简单。
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发表于 21-5-2006 10:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
虽然说事情不是酱简单。。。
但我相信全能的上帝。。
因为我深信没天父的应允。。
事情是不会发生的。。

而且我认为我们基督徒应该花时间为这件事祷告。。
接着祷告来改变属灵气氛。。
接着祷告让天父的旨意行在地上如同行在天上。。

弟兄姐妹们。。
一起为着这电影来祷告吧。。
照着神的旨意,不要照我们的旨意。。
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发表于 22-5-2006 12:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 e=mc2 于 22-5-2006 08:07 AM 发表
这电影,小说,明明亵渎我们的主,我们的上帝,我身为基督徒,我还有一点骨气,就是不让他赚我一分一毫,贝戈这电影,小说。

当然这电影是假的,情节是虚构的,你们说把它当普通电影看无所谓,你们说信心强无所 ...


呃。。
这位应该是姐妹吧。。。
你。。很属灵。。
我很欣赏你。。

我也不是很赞同这部电影的上映。。
但你说‘我身为基督徒,我还有一点骨气,就是不让他赚我一分一毫。’
好像是在射影有去看这部电影的弟兄姐妹。。
你应该站在他们的立场想想。。
他们是抱着什么心态去看这部电影。。
因为神在不同的人身上成就不同的事。。
神也给每个人选择的权力。。

而且我们应该花更多的时间为众弟兄姐妹和重教回到高才是。。
所以请静下来。。
看看神要告诉我们什么。。
然后好好的着这是祷告。。

对不起哦。。
希望你别生气。。
我只是把我的看法说出来而已。。。
不过你那爱主的心真令我感到感动。。
神应该也很感动吧。。
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发表于 22-5-2006 12:43 PM | 显示全部楼层

達文西密碼

我個人已經去看了達文西密碼.
感謝主耶穌.這部電影並不是想像中的好.
而且已經看到2則對這部電影的負面新聞.
我相信這部電影的收視率一定不佳.
如果把它當成一部普通的電影看待的話,1顆星也不到吧.
請問對於看過這部戲的弟兄姊妹有何看法.
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发表于 22-5-2006 02:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 wax66hk 于 22-5-2006 12:43 PM 发表
達文西密碼

我個人已經去看了達文西密碼.
感謝主耶穌.這部電影並不是想像中的好.
而且已經看到2則對這部電影的負面新聞.
我相信這部電影的收視率一定不佳.
如果把它當成一部普通的電影看待的話,1顆星也不到吧.
請問對於看過這部戲的弟兄姊妹有何看法.

 
都說是電影,故事純屬虛構,不必認真。

就如當年抄得火熱的UFO與外星人,是從聖經得到靈感之天馬行空的商業電影。只不過這次的靈感來自偽經,再加上商業包裝與宣傳。


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