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 楼主| 发表于 10-1-2012 02:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
watertown 是这个 weekend launch 吗?
AhSengSg 发表于 6-1-2012 11:58 AM



    胜兄的第三间家买了吗?胜兄的第三个用户名注册了吗?
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发表于 10-1-2012 02:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 1160# 野火


    整個星加坡都已經人太多了啦
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发表于 10-1-2012 11:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
胜兄的第三间家买了吗? 野火 发表于 10-1-2012 02:26 PM



    行情不好,有也是卖套现。。
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 楼主| 发表于 17-1-2012 03:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
行情不好,有也是卖套现。。
AhSengSg 发表于 10-1-2012 11:03 PM


电台听到Watertown的广告,信箱里也有Watertown的传单,胜兄不心动吗?
如果胜兄套现,是要卖点Private呢还是HDB?

我的屋子动土了
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发表于 18-1-2012 12:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
小的又来了, VALUATION = S$385K. 一开始, 他要 COV = 35K - 40K. 我告诉他, 太高了, 请另找 ANOTHER BUYER. (LOCATION @ CCK STR52 blk 560+)
AFTER THAT 我同事 COME TO ME AGAIN, 如果能让他和家人住到 SEP OR OCT 2012. 他愿意降到 S$20K -25K.
想看下大家的意见, 是现在拿 S$385K OFFER 去 HDB, 还是等到 SEP OR OCT 2012 才在做多一次 VALUATION?
还有还有, VALUATION 的 PHOTOS 拍到的东西都属于 BUYER 的? 如果 SELLER 要拿走一些, 可以 REQUEST LOWER COV?

谢谢, 想知道大家的见解.
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发表于 18-1-2012 06:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
watertown 是这个 weekend launch 吗?
AhSengSg 发表于 6-1-2012 11:58 AM



   现在有15%折扣....
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发表于 18-1-2012 10:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
现在有15%折扣....
binson 发表于 18-1-2012 06:03 PM


鞭神有卖到吗?看来价钱掉了很多,不是早些所说的1200-1350psf. 这个价钱看来好像很不错。
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发表于 18-1-2012 10:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
鞭神有卖到吗?看来价钱掉了很多,不是早些所说的1200-1350psf. 这个价钱看来好像很不错。
tckiat_5700 发表于 18-1-2012 10:13 PM



   他新年的时候才卖,明天我回家乡了...
你想要买?我还可以扣到16%的,再扣印花税....
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发表于 18-1-2012 10:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
小的又来了, VALUATION = S$385K. 一开始, 他要 COV = 35K - 40K. 我告诉他, 太高了, 请另找 ANOTHER BUYER ...
无敌小猪猪 发表于 18-1-2012 12:47 PM


正常来说,fixture是卖主不能拿走的,fitting就能。fixture是定在屋子结构上的如马桶,灯等等。fitting就好像搬得走的家私类的。
但是详情可以商量的,在OTP form上有得填写那一部份。
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发表于 18-1-2012 10:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
他新年的时候才卖,明天我回家乡了...
你想要买?我还可以扣到16%的,再扣印花税....
binson 发表于 18-1-2012 10:17 PM


小弟没本事买。 这个星期五如果有幸,新年后找你,哈哈。
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发表于 19-1-2012 09:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 tckiat_5700 于 19-1-2012 12:17 PM 编辑

不懂这一个新闻算不算为PR们平反呢?

http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201201190030-305796.html

The Ministry of National Development revealed cash-over-valuation (COV) prices by buyer type for the first time yesterday, two days after its minister said in Parliament that permanent residents (PRs) are not to blame for pushing up prices of Housing Board resale flats.
Singapore private-property owners topped the list, paying a median COV of $45,000 in the fourth quarter of last year (see table), according to a table posted on National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan's blog. In contrast, PRs paid the second-lowest median COV of $32,000.
Mr Eugene Lim, key executive officer of ERA Realty, said: "As private-property prices are at an all-time high, those who have cashed out would have easily made significant profit.
"So, they have the capability to pay higher COVs, especially for the larger flats that they usually buy. The other group are those who have profited from enbloc sales."
He cited a recent case in which a client made a profit of $700,000 after selling his intermediate terrace house for $1.5million.
The client "then bought an executive mansionette. He paid a COV of almost $100,000 and spent nearly $200,000 on renovation", said Mr Lim.
PropNex chief executive Mohamed Ismail pointed out that Singapore citizens were more likely to spend big bucks on COVs than PRs.
This is because citizens have more Central Provident Fund savings and qualify for higher concessionary loans.

Moreover, only Singaporeans are entitled to housing subsidies and buy resale flats under the Single Singapore Citizen Scheme.
"PRs who buy resale flats can't afford private properties as they are in the sandwiched income group," said Mr Ismail.
"Renting an HDB flat, which can cost more than $2,000 a month, is too expensive for them. As a result, they would rather save the money to buy a flat. And usually, they won't pay a high COV."
He said that PRs account for 20 per cent of the demand in the resale market, so they are not the sole reason HDB resale prices have risen by 83 per cent in the last five years.
Instead, overwhelming demand and insufficient supply are responsible for pushing up prices, he said.
About 10 to 15 per cent of the resale-flat buyers are private- property owners.
While property analysts largely concur with Mr Khaw's observation, they called for more information to facilitate a better understanding of the causes of high COVs.
"He should give the data for the whole year instead of just that for the fourth quarter, which is the time of the year when transactions begin to slow down," Mr Ismail said.

Mr Lim said a breakdown of the number and types of flats bought by different groups of buyers would be helpful.
Mr Nicholas Mak, executive director of SLP International Property Consultants' research and consultancy department, said singles pay lower COVs because they tend to buy smaller types of flats.
"Without detailed information, there is insufficient data to conclusively claim that it is the private-property owners who are responsible for bidding up the COV," he said.
HDB resale prices have been rising since 2002. The data provided by Mr Khaw is hardly enough to pinpoint which group of buyers are contributing to the rise in COV, he said.
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 楼主| 发表于 19-1-2012 10:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
小的又来了, VALUATION = S$385K. 一开始, 他要 COV = 35K - 40K. 我告诉他, 太高了, 请另找 ANOTHER BUYER ...
无敌小猪猪 发表于 18-1-2012 12:47 PM


小猪猪大大真的非常喜欢同事的屋子吗?不是的话,为什么那么麻烦还要买他的屋子?据我所知除了HDB的标准合约,HDB的买卖家所签的其他合约都是没有法律约束力的,你让他住到Oct,合约如何弄?
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 楼主| 发表于 19-1-2012 10:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
他新年的时候才卖,明天我回家乡了...
你想要买?我还可以扣到16%的,再扣印花税....
binson 发表于 18-1-2012 10:17 PM


binson大大,好奇你们帮发展商卖新Launch的Condo,它付你们多少佣金?也像Subsale/resale一样1-2%吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 19-1-2012 10:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
祝所有的大大们新年快乐,身体健康,万事如意,龙年行大运!

这是我1987年开始就很喜欢的新年歌,25年过去了,还是觉得它是最有意义的新年歌!

費玉清(群星合唱) -《珍惜來臨的一年》
作詞:陳自為 作曲:徐嘉良

有人說歲月太匆匆 轉眼一年在手掌中溜走
是不是沒有做什麼 就這樣讓時光留不住
年輕的世界 也許不曾感覺生命是如此短暫
如果你期待有收穫不要猶豫不要蹉跎
過去的歲月已不會再回頭
未來的路仍然要走
在新的一年來臨的時候
請你接受這一份祝福
接受這一份祝福

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发表于 19-1-2012 01:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
binson大大,好奇你们帮发展商卖新Launch的Condo,它付你们多少佣金?也像Subsale/resale一样1-2%吗?
野火 发表于 19-1-2012 10:52 AM



   没有这么多,才0.X%而已,去做resale的好过做这些新建的...
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发表于 19-1-2012 03:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/e ... campaign=news-daily

Within just five hours yesterday, over 160 of the 250 units released were sold at the preview of Watertown, the first integrated waterfront residential and retail development in Singapore.

Almost 90 percent of the buyers were Singaporeans, with the SOHO Apartments and Suites receiving the most interest.

Considered the largest private development in Punggol Central, Watertown is jointly developed by Frasers Centrepoint Limited, Far East Organization and Sekisui House, Ltd, which is the largest home builder in Japan.

“Watertown marks yet another milestone for Sekisui House, Ltd. as our largest investment to date in Singapore,” commented Isami Wada, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Sekisui House.

Situated at the heart of Singapore’s first eco-town, the 992-unit development comprises Suites, SOHO Apartments, Sky Patios, and Residences. It also features Waterway Point, a retail and lifestyle hub with close to 370,000 sq ft of net lettable retail space, al fresco waterfront dining and a Shaw Theatres IMAX cinema.

Watertown is served by a comprehensive public transport network and will be integrated with a planned town square and riverside promenade for community events. Complementing Punggol’s eco-town aspirations, Watertown will also integrate green elements, coutesy of Sekisui House.

More Watertown units will be released at its official launch on 20 January.

The development is set to be completed in 2017, while Waterway Point will be ready in 2015.
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发表于 19-1-2012 04:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
Showflat not ready, but buyers lap up Watertown
Published on Jan 19, 2012





House hunters examining a model of mixed-use development Watertown in Punggol Central last night. Far East Organization said more than 160 units out of the 250 units launched were snapped up, with Singaporeans making up more than 90 per cent of buyers. -- ST PHOTO: RAJ NADARAJAN

By Esther Teo, Property Reporter

HOME buyers, undeterred by recent tough market cooling measures, turned up in strong numbers at the preview of Watertown in Punggol Central yesterday.

Far East Organization said more than 160 units out of the 250 units launched were snapped up, with Singaporeans making up more than 90 per cent of buyers.

The enthusiastic response means that the official launch, originally scheduled for next week, will now be brought forward to tomorrow.

Industry analysts say developers seem eager to push out projects quickly, possibly before more uncertainty emerges.

In the case of Watertown, the developers bought the site for the 992-unit project less than a year ago and have yet to finish the showflat.

But agents had been fielding inquiries on the mixed-use development even before the authorities' approval for the launch had been given, sources say.

They say at least 100 buyers were ready to hand over cheques on Tuesday. But building plan approvals were issued yesterday and only then could agents collect cheques and grant options to purchase last evening.

The $1.6 billion project is being jointly developed by Far East, Frasers Centrepoint and Japanese firm Sekisui House. It will be integrated with a mall of 370,000 sq ft of net lettable shop space and a Shaw Theatres Imax cinema.

Developers had earlier said that prices will start from $1,080 per sq ft (psf), which they said included a discount.

Even so, the development will still set a benchmark in Punggol, trumping Sim Lian Group's A Treasure Trove, priced at $866 psf at its launch last September.

Buyers were unfazed at picking units off the plan as the showflat is not yet up.

Key attractions are the waterfront location and the fact that the project is integrated with Punggol MRT station, experts say. Recent mixed-use launches like Bedok Residences have also seen robust sales and benchmark pricing at a median of $1,359 psf.

SLP International research head Nicholas Mak said that developers are pushing out projects as quickly as possible before more uncertainty hits the market.

'Especially in the Punggol area, developers face increasing competition as the Government has pushed out a lot of land there,' he added.

He said the 11-month turnaround for the site, bought in February last year, was 'fairly quick'.

It typically takes a year or more for integrated projects of this size to be launch-ready, he added.

The Dec 7 cooling measures included an extra stamp duty of 10 per cent on all home buys by foreigners. Some analysts tip price falls of 10 per cent to 20 per cent this year.

Separately, Sekisui House said it will tap its network of retailers to introduce new-to-market brands and concepts from Japan into the upcoming mall.
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发表于 19-1-2012 04:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
小的又来了, VALUATION = S$385K. 一开始, 他要 COV = 35K - 40K. 我告诉他, 太高了, 请另找 ANOTHER BUYER ...
无敌小猪猪 发表于 18-1-2012 12:47 PM



    其实不是那么减的,不是说让他住到oct就买的值得。

你觉得那间屋子在别的地方值多少?385+20?还是385+35?

以我的看法就是
--> 385+35 = 420k = 不值得那个价
--> 变成385+20 + 7个月免费住(一个月2k的房租) = 385+20+14 = 419k = 还是不值得

以互惠互利的角度,
你在别边找到 385+20+agent fee = 大概409k,
而你同事的那一间却是385+20 + 7 ( 你7个月的房租 ) = 412k,

以这个算法来看至少还得减3k (=385+17),大家才互惠互利。
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发表于 19-1-2012 06:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢, SKYSHIP, TCKIAT & 野火的回复
是蛮喜欢他家.其中一点是象他酱大的HDB 又靠近MRT,这个价钱我还没看到NEAR MRT @OTHER AREA
但是觉得COV方面不是很值得.
GTG, share with u guys later tonight 
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发表于 19-1-2012 10:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
电台听到Watertown的广告,信箱里也有Watertown的传单,胜兄不心动吗?
如果胜兄套现,是要卖点Privat ...
野火 发表于 17-1-2012 03:29 PM



    卖了后去 JB 投靠忠叔,可以每天跟他讨论老李(他的 favourite topic)
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