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发表于 19-11-2013 11:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 1-11-2013 04:51 PM
原来你的意思是说卖国没有错,那么贪污也是卖国的行为,按照你的逻辑也是没错的。

你认为你需要被监视 ...

美国霸道那又怎么样?这是自然法则。中国掘起来了够可以在南中国海划九条线。这就是实力。

你告诉我嘛要怎样不监听不.....才能知道人家的国家机密嘛。

对了,中南海好像也有特工的喔。还好中南海没有像史诺登那样的人。不然我想听听你的高见。

对了,到时这论坛或天涯铁血那边一定会有人把那中南海的叛徒称为卖国贼、汉奸、民族败类的嘛。

别给我捉到其中一个这样讲的是你嘛。你很清高的那样不侵犯隐私。

我是对事不对人嘛。别把我当成美国的支持者。我只是觉得美国比较衰罢了嘛。
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发表于 19-11-2013 11:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 1-11-2013 04:53 PM
那些书根本就脑残,你最好不要看太多。

是吗?我看你才脑残呢。

说话说不过人就鑽牛角尖。

告诉我你要警察如何不监听、不监视......才能搜集证据嘛。
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发表于 19-11-2013 11:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 1-11-2013 05:14 PM
法律是立来让大家遵守的,是为了约束大家的行为,使大家都能在不伤害别人的情况下生活。法律本身是平等的 ...

法律是平等的。说就很好听。

你现在就跑去一个军阀或武装组织去跟他们讲这个道理吧。

法律的基础就是拳头(武力)。你要平等?那也有对等的实力才行。

别天真了小弟弟。时候不早了快上床睡觉吧。梦里有你的世界。

现实是讲实力的世界。梦里才适合你。
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发表于 20-11-2013 12:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 2-11-2013 12:29 AM
柬埔寨有恐怖分子?不要太天真,美国不是为反恐

美国自己就是恐怖分子

美国不只是为了反恐,沙巴苏鲁事件想必美国情报局早已观察一阵,采按兵不动,不然以美国过去的举动就会以保护菲利宾为由,制衡中国仗航母控制南中国海,在东南亚重建基地,入侵发生事件可能被美国情报局当要挟,放长线钓大鱼,没有利益的绝对不插手。
看早前苏鲁事件和国内传出幕后策划,最后不了了之,想必应该知道发生什么事吧
tppa席卷亚洲才来传出美国监听事件才是真正预谋。美国精得很,把全世界耍得团团转,那些盟友就算被监听也不能怎样,把美国控上国际法庭??呵呵,别忘了我有证据在你手,你还是得乖乖签卖身契。


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发表于 20-11-2013 12:14 AM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 1-11-2013 05:14 PM
法律是立来让大家遵守的,是为了约束大家的行为,使大家都能在不伤害别人的情况下生活。法律本身是平等的 ...

我们要的是监督和维持次序而不是彻底侵犯隐私式的监控。

针对你这句话我在说几句。

如果警察不做彻底侵犯隐私式的监控那样怎样捉到犯罪组织的把柄?

你是毒贩你会把贩毒交易记录放在那些不是属于隐私的地方吗?换了我是毒贩我肯定有几隐密有几隐私地把那些把柄藏起来了。

关于谁监控警方与政府的问题很复杂。但我还是点到即止讲一些。例如什么好像影子政府啊等等神秘组织就是背后监控世界的.....人(人?)

至于这个组织是谁管呢......很复杂也很简单。你只需要知道有一个好像影子政府(只是比喻)就行了。你身为人类你的本份是好好修行修炼提升自己。其他的事你就别管了。

这颗地球是被监控的。所以人类是在适当的管理下保留了自由的权利。


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发表于 20-11-2013 08:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
监听你们又怎样,你们嘛不是乖乖要用iphone!
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发表于 20-11-2013 10:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
lman0303 发表于 19-11-2013 03:12 PM
如果有一天国家政府为了保护隐私真的不监听、不监视等等所谓侵犯隐私的问题出来。想请问一下世界会怎样? ...

"...如果他是一位神父我会敬他几分。"

请问你是教徒吗?

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2013 ... atholic-church.html

Sexual Abuse in the Roman Catholic Church: 40%
of Catholic Nuns have been sexually abused too.
Those who got pregnant, their babies were murdered
6:34 AM666 - USA   









Over the past several decades some major newspapers have been exposing the problem of priestly sexual abuse of boys, girls, women – and even nuns – within the Roman Catholic Church here in the United States of America. Please carefully consider the following quotations

A large part of the history of [Ed.: mandatory] celibacy is the story of the degradation of women and – an invariable consequence – frequent abortions and infanticide.

In the ninth century, many monasteries were the haunts of homosexuals; many convents were brothels in which babies were killed and buriedPromiscuity was rife in monasteries and convents. The great Ivo of Chartres (1040-1115) tells of whole convents with inmates who were nunsonly in name. They had often been abandoned by their families and were really prostitutes.” – Peter de Rosa (“Vicars of Christ”; 1988; Pages 404 and 408)

According to the 1996 survey of nuns in the United States (which was intentionally never published by the [Ed.: Roman Catholic] Church but was leaked by some Vatican insider), it is reported that a minimum of 34,000 Catholic nuns (about 40% of all American nuns) claim to have been sexually abused. Three of every four of these nuns claimed they were sexually victimized by a priest, nun, or other religious person. Two out of five nuns who stated they were sexually abused claimed that their exploitation included some form of genital contact. All nuns who claimed repeated sexual exploitation reported that they were pressured by religious superiors for sexual favors.” – “Boston Globe” (1-8-2002) [Ed.: This quote is on p. 179 of the book, Lucifer’s Lodge”, by William H. Kennedy.]

“Then sometimes the priests come and they get angry with us [Ed.: i.e., the young nuns] because we refuse to have sexual relations with them voluntarilyand many, many the times to have him [ the priest] to strike you in the mouth – is a terrible thing! I’ve had my front teeth knocked out [Ed.: by a lecherous priest who was trying to force himself on Sister Charlotte]and then get you down on the floor Here we are – a body of little [Ed.: i.e., young] nuns. morning the mother superior might say this: ‘We’re all going to be lined up hereThen you know, there might be ten of us – there might be 15 of us. She [Ed.: i.e., the mother superior] will tell us all to strip. And we have to take every stitch of our clothing off. Here we are lined up [Ed.: without any clothes], and here come two or three Roman Catholic priests with liquor under their belts [Ed.: i.e., the priests are intoxicated], and there they march in front of those nude girls and choose the girl they want to take to the cell with them. These are convents – cloistered convents – not open orders. The priest can do anything he wants to and hide behind the cloak of religion! Then that same Roman Catholic priest will go back into the Roman Catholic Churches and there he will say Mass – and there he will go into the confessional box and make those poor people believe that  absolution from their sins – when he [Ed.: the priest who has recently sexually molested a nun] is full of sin, full of corruption vice. Still he acts as their ‘god’.
And then  kick you in the stomach. Many of the precious little girls [Ed.: i.e., young nuns] have babies under their hearts, and it doesn’t bother a priest to kick you in the stomach with a baby under your heart – he doesn’t mind – the baby is going to be killed anyway – because those babies are born in the convent. Why wouldn’t those babies be born, when you run places like these  under the cloak of ‘religion’ – the world thinks  religious orders. And there are babies born in there! I’ve delivered those babies with these hands; and what I’ve seen with my eyes and done with my hands – I just challenge the whole world to say it isn’t true.

And oh I wish you could see that little [Ed.: pregnant] nun. She is not looking forward to that . There won’t ever be a blanket around his body. They’ll never even bathe that baby’s body. But he can only [Ed.: live] 4 or 5 hours [Ed.: minutes?], and then the mother superior will take that baby and put her fingers in his nostrils and start cover its mouth – and snuff its little life out. And why do they build the lime pits in the convent? What is the reason for building it  if it isn’t to kill the babies? And that baby will be taken into the lime pit and chemical and lime is put over its body – and that is the end of baby!” – Sister Charlotte (Ex-Carmelite nun; a.k.a. Charlotte Wells; above excerpts are from a taped presentation by Sister Charlotte)

“Pope John Paul II [Ed.: pope: 1978-2005] presided over the second ‘pornography of the Papacy’. He presided over the greatest, most widespread, immoral scandal of sexual perversion in church history. Never in the annals of recorded history has such a scandal been displayed for the entire world to see. Documented case after documented case in the courts of the world, joined by thousands of other cases which never came to light as the BAG-MAN, as he was called, bought the silence of thousands of young men whose cases never came to the courts. Combined with other ‘faithful’ souls who, although sodomized as children, in their loyalty to mother church never even complained.” – Ronald Cooke (“The Death of the Pope of Rome”; 2005; Page 14)

“The late pope  was the voice of a religious institution which became the reservoir of the most egregious sexual perversion known to man: MEN CALLED PRIESTS PREYING ON THEIR HELPLESS LITTLE ALTAR BOYS  to satisfy their lust which arose in part from their enforced celibacy, which the Scriptures call a doctrine of demons. So as the chief voice of this reservoir of unnatural perversion, the late pope of Rome was surely the spokesman of a ‘Church’ which was filled with immoral priests under his authority; the spokesman for all the false doctrines of Romanism; and a man who himself claimed to be the Vicar of Christ on earth, making him then without doubt the MOST INFLUENCIAL IMMORAL VOICE OF OUR TIME . To have a REAL MORAL VOICE one must proclaim true Bible doctrine and repudiate falsehood, false claims, and false practices.” – Ronald Cooke (“The Death of the Pope of Rome”; 2005; Page 15)

“David Rice (a Roman Catholic writer) in states the figure 100,000 several times to describe the number of priests resigning from the priesthood usually over questions of their own morality.” – Ronald Cooke (“The Death of the Pope of Rome”; 2005; Page 15)

“The policy of silence and cover-up [Ed.: concerning sexual abuse within the Roman Catholic Church] promoted by the Vatican is mind-boggling. The vast amount of data which the Vatican collected concerning the sexual activity of [Ed.: the Roman Catholic] clergy makes it clear that the Pope and Curia were well aware of how wide-spread and common the sexual abuse problem was in the  Church.
It did nothing to redress the situation but continued with a policy of cover-up and silence. It seems that the only reason the Vatican ordered these secret sex studies was to get a global picture of where they stood and to develop informed strategies for hiding the problem in the future. Never was the welfare of the victims of sexual abuse taken into consideration, nor was the question of broken chastity vows apparently of any real concern.” – William H. Kennedy (“Lucifer’s Lodge: Satanic Ritual Abuse in the Catholic Church”; 2009; Page 178)

“The media black-out of the sexual abuse of women by clerics in both ritual and non-ritual cases is a great disgrace. The plight of male children who suffer under abusive priests is, of course, horrifying and should receive wide media coverage. However, the sexual abuse of nuns and women by clerics is a far larger problem.” – William H. Kennedy (“Lucifer’s Lodge: Satanic Ritual Abuse in the Catholic Church”; 2004; Page 180)

            “It’s tough to stay a Catholic when you’ve been sexually abused by a
             [Ed.: Roman Catholic] priest,
             then raped again by the [Ed.: Roman Catholic] Hierarchy.”
             – Miguel Chincilla (a Roman Catholic sexually abused by a priest)

Ed. Comment to the preceding quote: For decades in the USA the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy tried “to keep a lid” (as much as they possibly could) on the extensive abuse of children – almost exclusively boys – by Roman Catholic priests. Many of these pedophile priests were moved from diocese to diocese as their patterns of sexual abuse became known. As much as they were able, the past pope (John Paul II) and the current pope (Benedict XVI) protected these priests accused of sexual abuse from prosecution, even bringing some of them to Rome and putting them up in apartments in order to prevent them from being brought to trial. In many cases, Roman Catholic prelates and other clergy brought tremendous pressure on Roman Catholic victims and their families in order to get them to drop charges against the abusive priests. In other words, the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy was much more concerned about protecting the Church’s already tarnished reputation (and protecting its finances against lawsuits) than it was in removing pedophile priests from the priesthood or helping the victims of the priestly abuse!

For Further Research on this topic:
Please do a “google-style” search on the Internet for the book,
Lucifer’s Lodge: Satanic Ritual Abuse in the Catholic Church”,
by William H. Kennedy, and for the name “Sister Charlotte”.





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发表于 20-11-2013 02:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
dupont378 发表于 20-11-2013 02:42 AM
"...如果他是一位神父我会敬他几分。"

请问你是教徒吗?

Dark secrets of the Catholic Church;
Ex nun Confesses  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WkKmU_W8NU

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发表于 20-11-2013 02:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
yming2475 发表于 1-11-2013 04:14 PM
马奶下 和 印尼 ,何时要出兵攻打 ~~ 美国 ??

快鸟!快要出兵鸟,马奶下成绩私韩啦季要出精兵鸟
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发表于 20-11-2013 02:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
lman0303 发表于 19-11-2013 03:12 PM
如果有一天国家政府为了保护隐私真的不监听、不监视等等所谓侵犯隐私的问题出来。想请问一下世界会怎样? ...

New World Order

Pastor John Hagee
Met The Beast & the Antichrist -
This Video Will Blow Your Mind  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33dUQwdtqCc




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发表于 1-12-2013 05:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
zyrtec 发表于 20-11-2013 12:08 AM
美国不只是为了反恐,沙巴苏鲁事件想必美国情报局早已观察一阵,采按兵不动,不然以美国过去的举动就会以 ...

其实美国威胁人根本不需要证据,美国是想知道你的一举一动和下一步怎么走,以便可以先发制人
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发表于 1-12-2013 06:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
lman0303 发表于 20-11-2013 12:14 AM
我们要的是监督和维持次序而不是彻底侵犯隐私式的监控。

针对你这句话我在说几句。

你上面写的东西根本都是垃圾

给你三个问题:
1。如果你帮大马政府办事,开工之前说好是为人民服务,但开工后才发现原来是做损害人民利益的事,你还会不会继续干?
2。你帮政府办事,政府给你丰厚的酬劳,要你做一些见不得光的事,条件是你要保密。后来你发现你家人也可能会因此受害,你是否会继续瞒住你家人,是否继续干下去?
3。SOSMA赋予警方监听人民的权力,你支持吗?
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发表于 1-12-2013 03:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 1-12-2013 05:40 AM
其实美国威胁人根本不需要证据,美国是想知道你的一举一动和下一步怎么走,以便可以先发制人

话不能酱是非颠倒,美国人最提倡民主,如果美国政府没有真凭实据来为自己行动正义化,来届大选,美国人肯定给民主党倒。
不要忘了还有欧盟和俄罗斯盯着。
你要反监控除非技术比得上人家。 本帖最后由 zyrtec 于 2-12-2013 10:52 PM 编辑

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发表于 1-12-2013 08:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
抗議有鬼用
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发表于 1-12-2013 08:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
打几颗導弹过去。。
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发表于 2-12-2013 02:18 AM | 显示全部楼层
zyrtec 发表于 1-12-2013 03:54 PM
话不能酱是非颠倒,美国人最提倡民主,如果美国政府没有真凭实据来为自己行动正义化,来届大选,美国人肯 ...

布什政府编造谎言攻打伊拉克还不是一样连任

身为老板的你愿意让员工装窃听器在你办公室内吗?
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发表于 2-12-2013 11:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
ooibuiang 发表于 2-12-2013 02:18 AM
布什政府编造谎言攻打伊拉克还不是一样连任

身为老板的你愿意让员工装窃听器在你办公室内吗?

连任还有其他原因,小布什的支持率也是靠共和党内的保守派支持。攻打伊拉克留下的苏州屎现在还在被美国人指责。
有了这些前车之鉴,你说奥巴马还会开战?不然就不必在syria化武危机时一直找藉口拖延攻打,实际上美国经济已经陷入窘境。

身为老板的你会装窃听器听员工?同在一间公司下有什么秘密好听?要就监听对自身有利益的敌对公司。
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发表于 2-12-2013 11:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
奧巴馬已連任兩屆,無法再連任了,

剩下就看他視他黨重要還是美國利益重要?
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