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发表于 13-5-2015 02:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
说真的 很抱歉 LZ你的言论 在我看来 跟Li Ran的风格完全是一路的 无关措辞 再怎样修饰 背后的动机和心态都显露无遗

建议你去google下正气凛然四个字的image


再google下Amos Yee的image然后做个对比:
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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 02:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
wtk75 发表于 13-5-2015 02:21 PM
一个未成年的小孩可能会也可能不会吃饱没事做去做那种事。有可能被人洗脑和唆使的吗?毕竟那个年龄,虽然 ...

判他有罪。。背负着罪犯的名声。。那不是更容易使他变成 underground 份子吗?

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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 02:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
lampmaker 发表于 13-5-2015 02:31 PM
说真的 很抱歉 LZ你的言论 在我看来 跟Li Ran的风格完全是一路的 无关措辞 再怎样修饰 背后的动机和心态都 ...

你去 sg talk 那里。。有人说他的样子跟成龙较年轻时的样子很像。

对于你将我跟 Ran li 比较的言论,我暂且忽略。。因为我比较关心小孩的声誉。谢谢。

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发表于 13-5-2015 02:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
叶的灵 发表于 13-5-2015 02:12 PM
问题是余小生并未做错什么大事啊。。他有伤害什么人的身体吗?有没有人因为他而遭受经济损失?还是被他欺 ...

若是他把我的头像放在这里,我会感觉受伤害的:


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发表于 13-5-2015 03:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
你发的贴里面没有一个是让我觉得你关心Amos Yee的声誉多过Ran Li的惩罚 顶多相等吧

两件事要做比喻的话就像是自家孩子犯错的处罚和外来人的干扰和得罪
你认为是管教自家小孩重要点呢还是排出外人的言论重要点

请注意对Amos的指控是
1. making offensive or wounding remarks against Christianity
2. and for circulating obscene imagery.

再看看他的部落格的表达方式和内容 明显是想接国父的死来红多过正气凛然的斥责政府的过失  你对他的袒护我不知道为何总是联想起一些经常说我们家ah boy才不会做这种事的人
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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 03:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
kcchiew 发表于 13-5-2015 02:53 PM
若是他把我的头像放在这里,我会感觉受伤害的:

那么你可以起诉他啊。。问题是画中的两人都已经过世了。。无法起诉他。

再来,我可以 argue 那不是什么猥亵的东西。。仅仅是两个大人在做着瑜伽体操。

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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 03:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
lampmaker 发表于 13-5-2015 03:08 PM
你发的贴里面没有一个是让我觉得你关心Amos Yee的声誉多过Ran Li的惩罚 顶多相等吧

两件事要做比喻的话 ...

随便你要怎么说啦。。反正他现在肯定已经是“大人物”了。

我之所以强调要惩罚 Ran Li 是因为小孩的世界是很单纯的。。他们看大人怎么做。。他们就有样学样啊!为什么那个女人就可以在网上把所有新加坡的子民(不管哪个种族或宗教哦)一概而论地说成一定是需要用贷款才可以买得起电视机的丢人“穷鬼”?而余小生只是批评李光耀(和基督徒)几句话就要被逮捕、起诉兼坐牢呢?

说他想红?我看有些基督徒也应该是想红才会报案的吧?

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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 03:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
lampmaker 发表于 13-5-2015 03:08 PM
你发的贴里面没有一个是让我觉得你关心Amos Yee的声誉多过Ran Li的惩罚 顶多相等吧

两件事要做比喻的话 ...

还有无论指控他的罪名是什么都好。。为什么没有一个证人上庭作证呢?

这是迫害,不是指控!

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发表于 13-5-2015 03:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lampmaker 于 13-5-2015 03:36 PM 编辑

都说了一个是别人家的孩子来捣蛋  一个是自家孩子在倒米  你跟别人家长有各种纠缠不清的生意邦交往来  你直接去乎人家小孩一巴掌吗  人家家的孩子如果不是在你家杀人放火而是叫了两声你觉得总理可能出面来骂人吗

翻开历史看一看  最好用来煽动社会的工具就是学生  有思想  有幸动力  有梦想  还未经过社会洗礼  处决起来很不容易  要注意舆论和民声  不处理的话又会被颠覆

在没有可以预见有任何可以比目前政府更胜任的势力存在的情况下  没有用坦克车把他碾过去已经很仁慈了

至于报案的基督徒的意图什么的  跟国家对孩子的审判有什么毛线关系呢  东拉西扯的意义在哪呢
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发表于 13-5-2015 03:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
太多人太多的想法,所以大家用投票来决定,少数服从多数,就酱
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发表于 13-5-2015 03:49 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叶的灵 发表于 13-5-2015 02:43 PM
判他有罪。。背负着罪犯的名声。。那不是更容易使他变成 underground 份子吗?

我记得已故老李说过,一些人会不停的尝试,用宗教,语文,国籍等等来分化和达到政治目的。看来有必要在还没燎原的星火扑灭是对的做法。

我是赞成处罚那个小屁孩,罚他做义工服务社会~
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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 03:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
lampmaker 发表于 13-5-2015 03:31 PM
都说了一个是别人家的孩子来捣蛋  一个是自家孩子在倒米  你跟别人家长有各种纠缠不清的生意邦交往来  你直 ...

哦。。现在想用坦克车来对付自己人了?随便你。。

至于那些基督徒的目的是什么。。他们自己最清楚。

还有最后为什么没人上庭供证呢?这还算是审讯还是指控吗?我说是迫害!

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发表于 13-5-2015 04:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
叶的灵 发表于 13-5-2015 03:52 PM
哦。。现在想用坦克车来对付自己人了?随便你。。

至于那些基督徒的目的是什么。。他们自己最清楚。

看到这里  我也只能对你说阿弥陀佛。。。


可是要留意网络资源的节约哦

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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 04:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
wtk75 发表于 13-5-2015 03:49 PM
我记得已故老李说过,一些人会不停的尝试,用宗教,语文,国籍等等来分化和达到政治目的。看来有必要在还 ...

我越想越觉得余小生说得没错。。他说他认为耶稣是一个渴望、贪婪(权柄)和一个恶毒的人。。其实看今天的社会这么不平安,这么动荡。。也许耶稣就是这样的人吧?不然为什么他说“信他者能得永生”呢?这个世界乱七八糟的。。有多少个人会希望能得到永生呢?



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发表于 13-5-2015 04:20 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叶的灵 发表于 13-5-2015 04:15 PM
我越想越觉得余小生说得没错。。他说他认为耶稣是一个渴望、贪婪(权柄)和一个恶毒的人。。其实看今天的 ...

宗教就是你信你相信的,你不信就不信。。。
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发表于 13-5-2015 04:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
1. 其实你这个贴的意思是什么?就只是告诉大家你在LHL的FB PO 了那些东西?还是要讨论?觉得你这个贴开到没有头没有尾

anyway,amos yee打算申请禁止令,不让他爸爸靠近自己。

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 楼主| 发表于 13-5-2015 04:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
wtk75 发表于 13-5-2015 04:20 PM
宗教就是你信你相信的,你不信就不信。。。

他只所以批评基督教,那是因为他从小在那种环境中成长,当然会对该宗教提出问题和抗议啦。

他又不是随便侮辱其他宗教??

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发表于 13-5-2015 04:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
水手一月山 发表于 13-5-2015 04:26 PM
1. 其实你这个贴的意思是什么?就只是告诉大家你在LHL的FB PO 了那些东西?还是要讨论?觉得你这个贴开到没 ...

你是指以下这事吗?

后来有延续发展吗?
这几次有看到他爸还是站在他身边,让我感觉他爸应该会很无奈。

Now some fellow Mediacorp Actors attributed my actions on the Lee Kuan Yew video solely on the fault of my parents. Now of course being Mediacorp actors, they have the brain size of that of a peanut, with their views having as much insight as the quality of their shows.

Unless you are enslaved, parents are not the primary influence to their children, especially in our technologically advanced world where influences are much more eclectic. And to claim that the fault of a child, lies mostly in the fault of the parents, is absolutely fucking dumb. However, I do acknowledge that though parents are not the primary influence on a child, like your friends, the books you read or the movies you watch, they do have an effect in your life. And the abusiveness of my father, probably affected me in some ways.

During my childhood, my father would viciously berate me whenever he was upset with me (For cases such as when I had rubbed my eyes too much), and though I never saw it, I heard that my mother was slapped by him several times. And he did violently pin me down onto a bed when he admonished me for my Chinese New Year video a few years ago (The implications of that image is stunning).

But, the exact moment that I would I want to talk about that I feel is most indicative of his abusiveness, is the incident that happened just a few hours before my first time in court.

The night before the hearing, my once-Godmother (Now simply aunt because you know.. Atheist) and my family pleaded with me to ensure that I wore outdoor clothing the next day in court instead of my initially planned, pyjamas(A frequent apparel of mine due to comfort). Claiming that if I did not wear ‘decently’, the judge would be more severe towards me, and would issue harsher conditions that I had to comply with. I of course completely disagreed with the notion that clothing had or should have anything to do with a person’s view towards me, and was reluctant.

However seeing that they were exceptionally worried, I felt a generosity to put their minds to rest, therefore though I disagreed with them,  I obliged to their request. After all I did have some outdoor clothing that I was comfortable and satisfied with, so I felt that the compromise was worth it.

A couple of hours before the hearing, my mother and I picked that black shirt and beige pants, the clothes you’ve seen me wore during the court hearing,  that were to my great satisfaction.

However, contrary to the views of mother and I, my father wasn’t satisfied with those outdoor clothing, in fact he thought that they looked too casual for court.. He wanted me to wear more ‘formal’ clothing, with buttons, collars and possibly a tie or bow, otherwise the judge wouldn’t accept it.

Such arrogance for my father to put his own personal perspective, and claim that it is that of others. If the judge were to truly dictate his decisions on me based upon the quality of my ware, he would be unjust. Though maybe that was what my father was going for.

Since I was completely negligent of the state of my closet, formal clothing was scarce, and the only clothes that managed to fit my father’s meat-headed criteria were these horrid-looking collared blue shirt and these exceptionally uncomfortable black pants.  Those clothes appealed to his idea of a ‘formal’ appearance.

I put them on to and they looked absolutely awful, I witnessed myself in the mirror and was flabbergasted by the sight of a blue leprechaun. However, my father said that those were the only clothing that were acceptable, and I had to wear them.

Naturally, I expressed refusal to do so, and thus commenced my father’s violent behaviour. He pulled my shirt towards him, and made the gangsterish gesture, of clenching one’s fist and pulling it back, threatening a punch on my face,  if I did not comply.

My mother screamed, pleaded, and desperately attempted to pull me away from my father’s supposed oncoming attack.

Initially having complete fear of the violence of my father I had developed ever since I was a child, I said something along the lines of “alright, alright I’ll wear it”, which led him to cease his attack. I proceeded to walk into the toilet to look into a mirror and contemplate (Dramatic I know).

Then ultimately, having developed a subversiveness that had transcended anything that I had as a child, knowing that I’ll be completely uncomfortable wearing those clothes,  it would probably act as a distraction in court, and the fact that of course it looked absolutely wretched, I refused to comply, and so went out of the toilet and told him:

“It’s either I’m going to wear the black shirt, otherwise, I’m going to wear pyjamas.”

He, with uncontrollable, savage anger, held my shirt again and incessantly pushed my body repeatedly on the doors of my cupboard as my mother resumed her fruitless screaming.

However, he, supposedly wondering why after all these years I had actually resumed a provocation even after threats of violence. Having a kind of uncanny, revelatory expression like that of a confused hog, slowly released his grip and said something along the lines of, “ You know that if I hit you, and there is mark.. and then there are reporters out there….’

And of course, I grinned, and then responded, “Ahh.. I see you have found out my plan”.

He plodded away in defeat.  I proudly went back into my room, and changed my clothing.

This was the  1st ever instance in my life where I had overcome the threats of violence from my father, when I had not acceded to his demands, but he had to accede to mine. There was a sense of victory as I donned my black clothing, and beige tight pants. And after I had equipped myself, I sauntered up to him and said a few words.

And those few words catalysed his almost brutal execution…

With both hands, he took my head and violently slammed it on the wooden table beside us. Then he held me on my head and my body, flailing me around as I wailed and shrieked in terror, before he released his grip. I fell down hard on the floor.

He, had still not satiated his anger, and thus took my head and violently banged it on the hard, concrete floor.

In the background, obviously with the incessant screaming from myself, it caught the attention of the other people in the house. My mother continued her pleading for him to stop, my grandmother and maid just stood in a corner and did absolutely nothing.

Finally I think that my mother realised the ineffectual nature of her noise and decided to implement some form of tugging to my father. I think she used quite a considerable amount of force as she pulled my father’s arm.  And quite surprisingly, in a sort of miracle, the beast was finally tamed.

Huffing and puffing, he lumbered away.

Now fortunately, during both times my father slammed my head on the table and the floor, I had both my hands, firmly placed on the sides of my head, protecting me from the impact. If I had not had both those hands on my head, I would have the full impact of both the force of my father, and the floor. Knowing that the head was an especially sensitive area, I could have potentially become a vegetable, or died before I entered the court.

And after this episode, as I sat on the floor trembling in fear, my grandmother, instead of berating her son for his horrid behaviour, went up to me and said to me in Chinese ‘He’s just doing this because he cares for you, you should behave yourself and not make him so angry’

He’s doing this because he cares for me? Well if almost killing me is his way of expressing care, then I absolutely fear the instance when he ever decides to express love.

I can see from the view of grandmother, how these violent tendencies runs in the family. I so dearly hope that these acts of abuse, turmoil and violence, is not hereditary, because I would not be able to live with myself if I ever had to resort to violence to solve my problems, or to express to anyone my quote unquote ‘care’.

And whenever I tried to tell people what he did to me, they like my grandmother just said, ‘he only did that because he cared for you’ and would not do anything to try to stop him. And when he and I were out of the sight of others, he would tell me ‘There is no harm, or damage to your body, no one will ever believe you’.

Now the few words I said to him before he commenced his nearly brutal execution, were:

‘I am willing to let the previous incident slide, let bygones be bygones. But If you are ever violent to me again, I will reveal to everyone what happened.’

He then proceeded to almost killing me, so here we are.

Now of course, the common viewer could blame me for being terribly provocative to my father, but are you actually going to validate that my provocation was worthy of such a behaviour? It’s like trying to validate summoning bears to maul 42 children for making fun of a bald priest. God actually did that by the way (2 Kings 2:23-25).

Ever since that incident, whenever I talked to my mother, I would refrain from referring  to my father’s previous titles of  ‘father’ or ‘daddy’, and instead refer to him as ‘the killer’ or ‘the bastard’.

If one is able to almost kill a person over the choice of one’s clothing, seeing how the pressures of my court case is prevalent and as you can see I am as subversive as ever, I think it would be wise for me to have some semblance of a restraining order.

I seek and implore for help. If my mother would kindly file for a long overdued divorce and some sort of child protection service could be in order, that would be great.



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发表于 13-5-2015 04:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kcchiew 于 13-5-2015 04:53 PM 编辑

要控诉Vincent Low非礼他?

Amos有被害心理问题?

这位就是被指控非礼的人了。。。


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