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Live Trade: 无良broker的伎俩,抑或倒霉?(欢迎大家揭发broker的伎俩)

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 楼主| 发表于 10-3-2009 12:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
昨天又有惊险镜头,应该就是传说中的slippage了

在1115-1130之间,我在usdchf下了一个buy limit 1.1596 和一个 buy stop 在 1.1621。。
TNND,那段时间我都没看到1.1621的价格它居然能execute我的 1.1621 order 在价格显示 1.1607的时刻,那时幸好我正盯着荧幕才立时发现!! :@ 靠,一开始就输14pips...,TMD 我立刻紧密关注,幸亏价格一直上,我立刻来个+1pips才幸免于难。。。 晕阿,slippage 整14pips, SL 小的话一不小心就被吃了~!
TNND,又不见它trigger 我的buy limit 在1.1596?不过无论如何我都不希望有slippage...

大家都没 遇见这些情况吗? 分享下lei~~
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发表于 11-3-2009 12:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问各位玩LIVE的楼主你们是用什么BROKER呢?
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发表于 11-3-2009 01:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 fxwong 于 10-3-2009 12:23 PM 发表
昨天又有惊险镜头,应该就是传说中的slippage了

在1115-1130之间,我在usdchf下了一个buy limit 1.1596 和一个 buy stop 在 1.1621。。
TNND,那段时间我都没看到1.1621的价格它居然能execute我的 1.1621 order 在 ...


可以解释什么是slippage 吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 11-3-2009 07:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 lantern 于 11-3-2009 01:17 PM 发表


可以解释什么是slippage 吗?

In forex, slippage occurs when a limit order or stop loss occurs at a worse rate than originally set in the order. Slippage often occurs when volatility, perhaps due to news events, makes an order at a specific price impossible to execute. In this situation, most forex dealers will execute the trade at the next best price.

Slippage in the trading of stocks, often occurs when there is a change in spread. In this situation, a market order placed by the trader may get executed at a worse than expected price. In the case of a long trade, the ask may have increased. In the case of a short trade, the bid may have lowered. Traders can help to protect themselves from slippage by avoiding market orders when not necessary.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/slippage.asp
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 楼主| 发表于 11-3-2009 07:46 PM | 显示全部楼层

有关ECN broker vs Retail broker

Retail Broker
Pros:

    The trading platform usually comes with free charting software and news feeds. (For related reading, see Demo Before You Dive In.) Some of them have more user-friendly trading platforms.
  • Currency price movements can be less volatile compared to currency prices quoted on ECNs, although this can be a disadvantage to scalpers.
Cons:

    Because they may trade against you, market makers can present a clear conflict of interest in order execution. They may display worse bid/ask prices than what you could get from another market maker or ECN. It is possible for market makers to manipulate currency prices to run their customers' stops or not let customers' trades reach profit objectives. Market makers may also move their currency quotes 10-15 pips away from other market rates. A huge amount of slippage can occur when news is released. Market makers' quote display and order placing systems may also "freeze" during times of high market volatility.
  • Many market makers frown on scalping practices and have a tendency to put scalpers on "manual execution", which means their orders may not get filled at the prices they want.

ECN Broker
Pros:

    You can usually get better bid/ask prices because they are derived from several sources. It is possible to trade on prices that have very little or no spread at certain times. Genuine ECN brokers will not trade against you as they will pass on your orders to a bank or another customer on the opposite side of the transaction. Prices may be more volatile, which will be better for scalping purposes.
  • Since you are able to offer a price between the bid and ask, you can take on the role as a market maker to other traders on the ECN.
Cons:


    Many of them do not offer integrated charting and news feeds. Their trading platforms tend to be less user-friendly. Because of variable spreads between the bid and the ask prices, it may be more difficult to calculate stop-loss and breakeven points in pips in advance.
  • Traders have to pay commissions for each transaction.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/ECNmarketmaker.asp
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发表于 11-3-2009 09:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
我朋友告诉我有些Broker是直接与你对立的(Trade against you)。这些Broker会做些不道德的伎俩!:@ :@ 所以大家一定要清楚你的Broker背景,找个真正能信任的。
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发表于 12-3-2009 10:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
嗨,版主,想请教您,SLIPPAGE的华语的意释是什么呢?谢谢您。。。
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发表于 13-3-2009 01:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 forexStudent 于 12-3-2009 10:59 PM 发表
嗨,版主,想请教您,SLIPPAGE的华语的意释是什么呢?谢谢您。。。


嗯, 这位仁兄
我可以为你解答这问题,  它是代表滑移, 滑动, 滑程  
不是我英文太好, 而是因为太烂, 所以去安装了 语言translate 的软体。
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 楼主| 发表于 13-3-2009 01:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
就是你broker帮你进场的价钱  vs   你预订的进场价钱  间“滑出一段不利于你的价钱差距”

比如你打算在 1。0000 买上,但是broker帮你在 0.0085就进场了。。。,假设spread3pips,那么你一进场就亏了 12+3 pips 了
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发表于 13-3-2009 01:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
到底马来西亚有没有合法的外汇交易所?
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发表于 13-3-2009 03:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 newhotdog 于 13-3-2009 01:52 PM 发表
到底马来西亚有没有合法的外汇交易所?

沒有
只有透過外國公司進行交易
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发表于 13-3-2009 03:22 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 31# 仙劍 的帖子

这样又以什么方法来辨别呢?
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发表于 18-3-2009 10:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
%……¥—#%……—%……:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@

又给ibfx!!!!!!


我buy, set trailing stop后, 如果价格回弹,应该会stop在1。4041.

之后hit到1。4041 system auto close trade.

当我check回trade record时,竟然发现stop在1。4032.
给吃掉9pips......

有人试过酱吗?:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@

trailing stop不是system close的吗???
trailing stop 都会酱, trail来搞???

:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@

[ 本帖最后由 j21 于 18-3-2009 10:38 PM 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 18-3-2009 11:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 j21 于 18-3-2009 10:27 PM 发表
%……¥—#%……—%……:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@

又给ibfx阴!!!!!!


我buy, set trailing stop后, 如果价格回弹,应该会stop在1。4041.

之后hit到1。4041 system auto close trade.
...

或许是以下情况?
trailing stop 要在连线状态下才能发挥。于是就干脆让你的system故障了下,那么他们就可以顺利的混过关了?
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发表于 19-3-2009 12:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
IBFX都酱,为什么全部还一股脑冲去开IBFX户口? 不明白
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发表于 19-3-2009 01:16 AM | 显示全部楼层
可能这个金字招牌是用你们的血汗钱买回来?哈哈, 开玩笑啦,听听就算
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发表于 19-3-2009 01:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
From Investopedia:

What Does Slippage Mean?
The difference between the expected price of a trade, and the price the trade actually executes at. Slippage often occurs during periods of higher volatility, when market orders are used, and also when large orders are executed when there may not be enough interest at the desired price level to maintain the expected price of trade.

Slippage is a term often used in both forex and stock trading, and although the definition is the same for both, slippage occurs in different situations for each of these types of trading.

Investopedia explains Slippage
In forex, slippage occurs when a limit order or stop loss occurs at a worse rate than originally set in the order. Slippage often occurs when volatility, perhaps due to news events, makes an order at a specific price impossible to execute. In this situation, most forex dealers will execute the trade at the next best price.

Slippage in the trading of stocks, often occurs when there is a change in spread. In this situation, a market order placed by the trader may get executed at a worse than expected price. In the case of a long trade, the ask may have increased. In the case of a short trade, the bid may have lowered. Traders can help to protect themselves from slippage by avoiding market orders when not necessary.
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发表于 19-3-2009 07:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 j21 于 18-3-2009 10:27 PM 发表
%……¥—#%……—%……:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@

又给ibfx阴!!!!!!


我buy, set trailing stop后, 如果价格回弹,应该会stop在1。4041.

之后hit到1。4041 system auto close trade.
...


其实这问题是这样的,当MARKET 非常VOLATILE的时候一大群BUYER OR SELLER一起涌进场, 本来的SL & tp 是会被冲破的, 就好象歌迷会那样,大堆的歌迷一下涌前去,栏竿的位子一定会被推前去的..........然后会停在安静下来的位子
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发表于 19-3-2009 11:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
其实是马来西亚line的问题还是broker的问题呢?
(此问题是针对那些用出名broker的trader所遇到的问题)

PS:出名的broker = http://www.forexfactory.com/brokers.php
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发表于 23-3-2009 11:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
那样OSK 是用什么方法進行交易呢?
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