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原帖由 如新 于 19-8-2007 10:58 PM 发表
哈哈1不是误会朱总....
是怕朱总沉迷...........
谢谢老板的关心。。我很明白老板的用心。。
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原帖由 如新 于 19-8-2007 11:26 PM 发表
难道要成功才有苏丹鱼吃?
一千几百一条鱼,我还可以吃的起的.........
是看有没有那个必要罢了....................
但是等朱总赚到第一桶金请我出的话......可能苏丹鱼变蜜糖鱼...哈哈!
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希望这次的股灾没有蒸发掉你身价的说--你不是一个保守的人
可以不用回复我的帖子--我只是写爽的
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原帖由 如新 于 19-8-2007 11:26 PM 发表
难道要成功才有苏丹鱼吃?
一千几百一条鱼,我还可以吃的起的.........
是看有没有那个必要罢了....................
但是等朱总赚到第一桶金请我出的话......可能苏丹鱼变蜜糖鱼...哈哈!
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要用锅铲边咩。。
那边是疯的。。不要忘记uncle 的分享哦。。拿回你要的钱,就让它飞吧。。等下冲到百多元。。哈哈!!
被你炸到够够力。。连日本鸡都出来。。铥。。
对啊。。成功的话,就有必要庆祝。。哈哈! 失败了,也要庆祝。。哈哈!
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原帖由 KelvinLiew 于 19-8-2007 23:30 发表
希望这次的股灾没有蒸发掉你身价的说--你不是一个保守的人
可以不用回复我的帖子--我只是写爽的
说真的---真的很懒惰回复你的帖子
看你那么想知道---就不妨跟你说吧
这次的股灾完全没有影响到我---今年的现钱流保守估计会增值20%-25%左右---
产业估计会增加---今年算不错 |
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原帖由 atm 于 20-8-2007 12:26 发表
画神符起义?
吃月饼拜月亮起义?
估计是吃月饼,看月亮....估股票....拉 |
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原帖由 如新 于 20-8-2007 11:04 PM 发表
估计是吃月饼,看月亮....估股票....拉
哈哈! 是看靚女,看靚仔,邊吹水,邊喝德國啤。。哈哈哈!! |
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原帖由 chukh1 于 20-8-2007 23:30 发表
哈哈! 是看靚女,看靚仔,邊吹水,邊喝德國啤。。哈哈哈!!
最近没有发现什么靓女.....呵呵! |
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上海「股神」楊百萬﹕炒股要聽黨和政府話
蘋果日報/有中國股神之稱的股市名人楊百萬昨在深圳錄制電視節目﹐暢談18年的炒股心得。他稱﹐中國股市是政府主導的政策市﹐因此炒股要聽黨和政府的話。他又指﹐上周全球股災和接下來的宏觀調控對股市影響不大﹐鼓勵年輕人投入股市。(chinesenewsnet.com)
近日小股民因股市波動而叫苦連天﹐楊百萬卻可置身事外﹐因他在5月30日財政部把印花稅率調升至3%前﹐已把股票清倉﹐他對准確判斷股市感到相當得意。對於股市未來走勢﹐楊非常樂觀
政府肯定大力發展股市(chinesenewsnet.com)
「現在的中國股市﹐老百姓出錢﹐政府就是收稅﹐政府肯定要大力發展股市。」他又稱﹐股市肯定是要發展的﹐「中國每個年輕人都應該加入股市中來﹐分享中國經濟高速發展的成果﹐不要在乎那些兩﹑三個月的短期數據。」(chinesenewsnet.com)
被問及身家及綽號自己是否該改成「楊千萬」或「楊上億」﹐他笑稱﹕「肯定超過一百萬﹐但我不會說﹐反正這輩子夠花了。那怕有一個億﹐我還是『楊百萬』。」他稱﹐這名字是歷史形成的不能改變。(chinesenewsnet.com)
死後骨灰撒證交所門口(chinesenewsnet.com)
「1987年倒賣國債﹐我一個晚上賺了6,000元﹐當時每月工資是63元﹐一晚上掙了10年的錢﹗」當年﹐楊百萬以兩萬元炒賣國庫券﹐賺取了人生第一桶金﹐從此聲名大噪。「那時候我手上起了老繭﹐很多人以為我是打鐵的﹐其實是我拎錢拎出來的。他當時帶全部的積蓄前往全國其他省市﹐在當地銀行以較低的價格買入國債﹐再帶回上海﹐以較高的價格賣給銀行﹐賺取差價﹐當時他至少賺了500萬元。(chinesenewsnet.com)
1990年﹐楊百萬作為中國首批股民涉足股市。「那時候就13支股票﹐我們幾個大戶怎麼弄股價就怎麼走﹐做小莊……那個時代﹐亂世出英雄﹗」如今自己成了草根股民﹐他也為此感慨。‘楊百萬享受生活﹐但對股市痴心不改﹐甚至為孫子取名「楊線」(「陽線」的諧音)﹐小名「漲停板」。他認為活一天就看一天股市﹐甚至戲言﹐死後骨灰要撒到證交所門口。(chinesenewsnet.com)
楊百萬炒股金句(chinesenewsnet.com)
﹒炒股要有平常心﹐知足方能常樂﹐不能太貪。(chinesenewsnet.com)
﹒以投資的眼光買﹐以投機的觀念賣。(chinesenewsnet.com)
﹒看大勢賺大錢﹐看小勢賺小錢﹐看錯勢要賠錢。(chinesenewsnet.com)
﹒先求保本﹐後求盈利是目前投資精神﹑投資理念健康的一個標准和象徵。(chinesenewsnet.com)
﹒股市不是看誰笑得最好﹐而是看誰笑到最後。(chinesenewsnet.com)
小檔案﹕炒國債賺第一桶金(chinesenewsnet.com)
現年57歲的楊百萬﹐原名楊懷定。上海出生的他﹐原為上海鐵合金廠工人。1988年﹐他因從事新興的國庫券買賣﹐賺得了他人生的第一桶金──數百萬元﹐成為上海灘首批證券投資大戶﹐並成為中國證券史上鼎鼎大名的人物。其後前總理朱?基更說笑﹐叫他「楊百萬」。自此﹐「楊百萬」在中國證券史上﹐無人不識。1998年﹐他被中央電視臺評為「中國改革開放20年風雲人物」
http://www5.chinesenewsnet.com/MainNews/SocDigest/Economy/2007_8_20_18_25_2_313.html
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上次他讲他吃鱼身,不吃鱼头和鱼尾,想不到这样快就转调了。 |
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原帖由 chukh1 于 19-8-2007 09:41 PM 发表
如果我是fed,或者美国政府楂fit 人, 走到没有路走,就推其中几间公司的CEO 出来,然后叫检察官去搞定他们。。这样就可以让案件有了交代,也明朗化。。
这个是其中一个黑暗的策略。。美国佬肯定做得到。。已 ...
這個是上個星期我講的。。
這個是昨天的新聞。。。
SEC Goes After Fund Manager
Liz Moyer, 08.20.07, 5:10 PM ET
The subprime mortgage meltdown is now leading to fraud charges.
Sentinel Management, a Chicago-area money fund manager that filed for bankruptcy protection Friday, is facing civil charges by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which says it defrauded its clients by improperly commingling, misappropriating and leveraging securities without their knowledge.
The fund claimed to have $1.2 billion in assets under management as of last week. The SEC, in a 10-page complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Chicago, says Sentinel transferred $460 million in securities from client investment accounts to its house account and also used securities from client accounts as collateral to get a $321 million line of credit from the Bank of New York (nyse: BK - news - people ).
The bank says the fund is in default on that credit agreement, and it will begin selling assets pledged as collateral as early as Wednesday. Some of those funds might be the client assets that were transferred.
The firm's conduct has placed its clients "at risk of serious and irreparable loss," the SEC says. Many of those clients are futures trading firms that park short-term cash in money market funds.
A person who answered Sentinel's phone Monday said a statement was not yet available.
Sentinel sought bankruptcy protection late Friday after telling clients last week it couldn't meet redemption requests because of market turmoil. Investors have already started to sue the fund, contending it had sold assets at too steep a discount--reportedly 30%--and without their approval. A U.S. District Court judge blocked part of a planned sale of more than $300 million of those assets to Citadel Investment Group earlier on Friday.
Sentinel isn't the first fund to falter in the wake of the market turmoil, but it certainly is among the more bizarre cases.
Sowood Capital was forced last month to sell its credit portfolio to Citadel after heavy losses from its exposure to the credit markets. Bear Stearns (nyse: BSC - news - people ) and Goldman Sachs (nyse: GS - news - people ) have also had trouble with their own hedge funds, with Bear being forced to close two of them and Goldman injecting $2 billion (plus $1 billion from some investors) to shore up one of its funds in a non-rescue rescue from the market turmoil.
But Sentinel is a money fund, not a hedge fund, and by nature is supposed to be invested in the sorts of bland, short-term, highly rated securities that make investors feel comfortable leaving their cash in the funds for a while. Of course, even money funds haven't been immune to the subprime problems. Collateralized debt obligations containing mortgage paper led BNP Paribas (other-otc: BNPQY - news - people ) to suspend three funds, saying it was impossible to value some of the assets in them.
The trouble at Sentinel emerged last week, when the firm bizarrely said it had asked the Commodities Futures Trading Commission to grant its request to halt redemptions. The CFTC, a regulator of the futures markets, said it didn't have any say in the actions of individual funds with regard to redemptions. And the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (nyse: CME - news - people ) felt moved to issue a press release saying it was not affected by the apparent crisis at Sentinel. Many firms that clear through the Merc were investors in the fund, apparently.
Sentinel distributed daily account statements that did not reflect the improper activities, and it never told clients it was commingling or transferring assets, the SEC says.
The SEC says Sentinel used $1.5 billion in customer assets to obtain financing worth three times the value of those securities. Financing was used to buy additional shares. But the client statements prepared by Sentinel did not reflect this activity.
Last week, Sentinel sent a letter to clients saying it was halting redemptions because of the liquidity crisis in the markets. The firm said the crisis was making it hard to meet redemption requests without selling securities at deep discounts.
The SEC says clients had in fact had undisclosed losses for several months leading up to last week because of the firm's use of leverage and commingling and "misappropriation" of assets. As of last week, "account statements Sentinel provided to clients listed hundreds of millions of dollars in securities that were not held by Sentinel at all, were held by Sentinel and treated as its own assets, or were pledged as collateral for loans extended to Sentinel," the SEC said.
"At the very least, Sentinel has not kept accurate books and records," the SEC said in the complaint.
都說了, 肯定會會有人被推出來為這件事負責。。就算沒有太大的關聯,美國佬也是叫他們的人去搞定!
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最近中国产品屡屡被国外公司找各种理由封锁其市场,然后中国股民要冲破 5 千点关卡。
虽然早可以猜测美国即将降息的作法,并以降低贴现率来安抚市场,但其实并非治本的作法。问题的根源是来自各国的次级房贷行不通。没办法还钱的是百姓。不是贷款制度有问题过于宽松,就是百姓开始负荷不了沉重的担子。降低贴现率只是让金融体系之间的资金流动更容易,并没有真正解决问题。况且,伯南克一降就是 0.50%,还是让人感觉意外。
美国一直不希望股市泡沫爆破的举动,除了让趁低吸纳的投资者买不到低价股票,可能会让原本的问题持续恶化。 |
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原帖由 chukh1 于 21-8-2007 09:52 发表
這個是上個星期我講的。。
這個是昨天的新聞。。。
都說了, 肯定會會有人被推出來為這件事負責。。就算沒有太大的關聯,美國佬也是叫他們的人去搞定!
哈哈哈!!!
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原帖由 过路客 于 21-8-2007 10:46 AM 发表
最近中国产品屡屡被国外公司找各种理由封锁其市场,然后中国股民要冲破 5 千点关卡。
虽然早可以猜测美国即将降息的作法,并以降低贴现率来安抚市场,但其实并非治本的作法。问题的根源是来自各国的次级房贷 ...
FED 是不可能去幫忙解決這個問題的。。
因為聯邦儲備局成立的用意是捍衛美元,讓美元成為世界貨幣。。所以,歷代主席都是只注重通脹。。
所以,他們現在做的種種都只是為了穩定信心。。
如同那個jim crammer 一直呼吁FED 插手,同時間把情況說的有多嚴重就多嚴重。。我懷疑不知道他自己是不是也中招了!哈哈!
按照資本主義市場和FED 的使命, FED 不插手是最好的,只要一直穩定金融市場的信心就可以了!
所以,我之前說了, 前面等待我們的是一個更大更廣更嚴重的風暴!
市場的問題,是那些神經刀做出來的,后果當然是由他們自己承擔。。一切就由市場去校正。。
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原帖由 chukh1 于 21-8-2007 13:13 发表
FED 是不可能去幫忙解決這個問題的。。
因為聯邦儲備局成立的用意是捍衛美元,讓美元成為世界貨幣。。所以,歷代主席都是只注重通脹。。
所以,他們現在做的種種都只是為了穩定信心。。
如同那個jim c ...
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