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聖經裏有輪迴的教導嗎?

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 楼主| 发表于 2-8-2011 10:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
那也可能是论及圣灵的更新啊~~~
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发表于 2-8-2011 10:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
没有就没有。何必藉着打压其他宗教的轮回论来传教?
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发表于 5-8-2011 10:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
Christianity

Though the major Christian denominations reject the concept of reincarnation, a large number of Christians profess the belief. In a survey by the Pew Forum in 2009, 24% of American Christians expressed a belief in reincarnation.[112] In a 1981 Survey in Europe 31% of regular churchgoing Catholics expressed a belief in reincarnation.[113]

Geddes MacGregor, an Episcopalian priest who is Emeritus Distinguished Professor of Philosophy at the University of Southern California, Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature, a recipient of the California Literature Award (Gold Medal, non-fiction category), and the first holder of the Rufus Jones Chair in Philosophy and Religion at Bryn Mawr, demonstrates in his book Reincarnation in Christianity: A New Vision of the Role of Rebirth in Christian Thought,[114] that Christian doctrine and reincarnation are not mutually exclusive belief systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation
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发表于 5-8-2011 10:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
Christian Reincarnation
The controversy

During the period from A.D. 250 to 553 controversy raged, at least intermittently, around the name of Origen, and from this controversy emerged the major objections that orthodox Christianity raises against reincarnation.  Origen of Alexandria, one of Christianity's greatest systematic theologians, was a believer in reincarnation.

Origen was a person devoted to scriptural authority, a scourge to the enemies of the church, and a martyr for the faith.   He was the spiritual teacher of a large and grateful posterity and yet his teachings were declared heresy in 553.  The debates and controversies that flared up around his teachings are in fact the record of reincarnation in the church.

The case against Origen grew by fits and starts from about A.D. 300 (fifty years after his death) until 553.  There were writers of great eminence among his critics as well as some rather obscure ecclesiasts.  They included Methodius of Olympus, Eppiphanius of Salamis, Theophilus, Bishop of Jerusalem, Jerome, and the Emperor Justinian.  The first of these, Methodius of Olympus, was a bishop in Greece and died a martyr's death in the year 311.  He and Peter of Alexandria, whose works are almost entirely lost, represent the first wave of anti-Origenism.   They were concerned chiefly with the preexistence of souls and Origen's notions about the resurrection of the dead.  Another more powerful current against Origenism arose about a century later.  The principals were Ephiphanius of Salamis, Theophilus of Alexandria, and Jerome.  

From about 395 to 403 Origen became the subject of heated debate throughout Christendom.  These three ecclesiats applied much energy and thought in search of questionable doctrine in Origen.  Again the controversy flared up around 535, and in the wake of this the Emperor Justinian composed a tract against Origen in 543, proposing nine anathemas against "On First Principles", Origen's chief theological work.  Origen was finally officially condemned in the Second Council of Constantinople in 553, when fifteen anathemas were charged against him.

The critics of Origen attacked him on individual points, and thus did not create a systematic theology to oppose him.  Nonetheless, one can glean from their writings five major points that Christianity has raised against reincarnation:

(1)   It seems to minimize Christian salvation.
(2)   It is in conflict with the resurrection of the body.
(3)   It creates an unnatural separation between body and soul.
(4)   It is built on a much too speculative use of Christian scriptures.
(5)   There is no recollection of previous lives.

Any discussion of these points will be greatly clarified by a preliminary look at Origen's system.  Although it is of course impossible to do justice in a few pages to a thinker as subtle and profound as Origen, some of the distinctive aspects of his thought can be summarized.
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发表于 5-8-2011 11:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
相互比較之下,聖經說我們要看顧我們的弟兄。我們要慈愛的對待窮苦貧困的人。聖經教導說:神愛所有人,他們都有平等的機會,但是這個機會必須在今生把握住。

——派特●羅伯森


看来羅伯森是以偏概全。印度教真的有教人如此對待窮苦貧困的人? 受到事物的外相左右了判斷,因認知上的迷霧,當心中有了「執著」,就沒有多餘的空間容得下别人的宗教与真理了。

他说:“神愛所有人,他們都有平等的機會,但是這個機會必須在今生把握住。”请问所谓的机会是什么?接触基督教的机会?如果只有今生把握的机会,又何来平等的机会呢?
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 楼主| 发表于 6-8-2011 12:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
看来,小弟贴的这文章冒犯了别宗教,其实我只是想要把某些相信轮回论的弟兄们清楚知道圣经的教导,如果版主认为不适合可以移走主题
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发表于 8-8-2011 08:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
看来羅伯森是以偏概全。印度教真的有教人如此對待窮苦貧困的人? 受到事物的外相左右了判斷,因認知上的 ...
zhichan 发表于 5-8-2011 11:49 PM



   印度的某些教会没有轮回的观念,却还是有阶级的思想。
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发表于 2-10-2011 11:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
祂必照各人的行为报应各人。(罗2:6)

同意,耶和华神是赏善罚恶的神。
haleruya565 发表于 18-7-2011 09:41 PM



    完全同意。。。。。。
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发表于 3-10-2011 12:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
肉身指的是我们从母亲生出来;从灵生就是指我们承认耶稣为我们的救主,承认我们的罪,重新过着圣洁的生活 ...
yung17 发表于 29-7-2011 01:58 PM



如果沒有輪迴   那為何還有原罪??
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发表于 3-10-2011 08:22 AM | 显示全部楼层
聖經已經說明了萬物包括人類都是天主創造的,所以那有什麼輪迴之事呢??
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 楼主| 发表于 3-10-2011 09:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
聖經已經說明了萬物包括人類都是天主創造的,所以那有什麼輪迴之事呢??
《文治征塵》 发表于 3-10-2011 08:22 AM



    圣经也记载死后灵魂在天堂或地狱
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