其实我对股市是长线看涨的.

老散一名

原帖由 股友 于 6-11-2008 11:23 PM 发表
可恶，我以为烧给先人的冥币面值最大了人间竟然还有更大的。

有大過它的咩，那一張啊。
老散眼花看無。

chookf

原帖由 napster 于 1-12-2008 03:48 PM 发表
不到8个交易日
Citi   $3---->$8=>150%
Fannie $0.3--->$1=>250%

事实就是事实。
看你几时进场出场罢了。
现在进场，未来1-2年赢面很大的，100％回酬小意思.

事实就是事实,以上股票会说话的，自己看

你也真是的．．．實在是不知道自己在說什麼？
一邊說長線，一邊又在乎短期波動的利潤，
虧損時不說錯，賺時就大唱特唱．．．
典型散戶的性格

不到8个交易日
Citi   $3---->$8=>150%
Fannie $0.3--->$1=>250%

說的很好聽！你有本事在它們爆起時就預先知道嗎？
這些爆起的股票，也隨時會爆跌，
到時你有本事預知嗎？

實在些......


你的AIG是不會讓你賺幾十倍的！
行情恢復後，好運最多只有２－３倍，
LVS可以讓你賺１倍就偷笑了！

我知道你不喜歡我唱衰你的策略，
這世界上有多少人可以接納真話的？
真話永遠是不順耳的．．．

你將你的LVS和AIG收５年看看！
可以賺１－２倍你就偷笑了！

linkinwei

彼得林治的战胜华尔街说过一段故事：当年第一次世界大战，德国沦为战败国，为了偿还债务，政府拼命印制钞票，造成马克大跌，通膨压得人民喘不过气。。。当时就有人推了辆小木轮车，车上装了两大袋的钞票，大家以为他要去买什么地皮珠宝吗？那人推了这几千万的马克，只为去面包店买两条面包！好了，终于把这堆钞票推倒了面包店门口，那人就先去敲门，因为市道不好，门不能随便打开，招来横祸可不妙。。好了，面包店肯卖了，那人好高兴，心想可以添添肚子了，这几天可饿得慌了。。一转头一看，只见地上把这两堆他刚才费尽千辛万苦才搬来的钞票，而小木轮车以不知所终。。。世道之差，大家连整堆钞票都不要，甘愿去抢那个破烂的小木轮车。。。

luckystar2008

股市一定是會漲，只不過不知道要花多少年的時間 。

hoollly

The Worst Episode of Hyperinflation in History:
Yugoslavia 1993-94


Under Tito Yugoslavia ran a budget deficit that was financed by printing money. This led to rates of inflation of 15 to 25 percent per year. After Tito the Communist Party pursued progressively more irrational economic policies. These irrational policies and the breakup of Yugoslavia (Yugoslavia now consists of only Serbia and Montenegro) led to heavier reliance upon printing or otherwise creating money to finance the operation of the government and the socialist economy. This created the worst hyperinflation in history up to this time.

By the early 1990s the government used up all of its own hard currency reserves and proceded to loot the hard currency savings of private citizens. It did this by imposing more and more difficult restrictions on private citizens access to their hard currency savings in government banks.

The government operated a network of stores at which goods were supposed to be available at artificially low prices. In practice these store seldom had anything to sell and goods were only available at free markets where the prices were far above the official prices that goods were supposed to sell at in government stores. In particular, all of the government gasoline stations eventually were closed and gasoline was available only from roadside dealers whose operation consisted of a parked car with a plastic can of gasoline sitting on the hood. The market price was the equivalent of $8 per gallon.

The combination of the shortage of gasoline and the government confiscation of German Deutsche mark deposits created a bizaar episode. A man after repeated attempts to get the government to let him withdraw his Deutsche mark deposits as Deutsche marks announced the was going to commit suicide in front of a government building by dousing himself with gasoline and igniting it. On the appointed day he showed up with a canister of gasoline. The media was there to film his protest. The police were also there and arrested the man. Afterwards the television station got numerous phone calls asking what had happened to the canister of gasoline.

Most car owners gave up driving and tried to rely upon public transportation. But the Belgrade transit authority (GSP) did not have the funds necessary for keeping its fleet of 1200 buses operating. Instead it ran fewer than 500 buses. These buses were overcrowded and the ticket collectors could not get aboard to collect fares. Thus GSP could not collect fares even though it was desperately short of funds.

Delivery trucks, ambulances, fire trucks and garbage trucks were also short of fuel. The government announced that gasoline would not be sold to farmers for fall harvests and planting.

Despite the government desperate printing of money it still did not have the funds to keep the infrastructure in operation. Pot holes developed in the streets, elevators stopped functioning, and construction projects were closed down. The unemployment rate exceeded 30 percent.

The government tried to counter the inflation by imposing price controls. But when inflation continued the government price controls made the price producers were getting ridiculous low they stopped producing. In October of 1993 the bakers stopped making bread and Belgrade was without bread for a week. The slaughter houses refused to sell meat to the state stores and this meant meat became unvailable for many sectors of the population. Other stores closed down for inventory rather than sell their goods at the government mandated prices. When farmers refused to sell to the government at the artificially low prices the government dictated, government irrationally used hard currency to buy food from foreign sources rather than remove the price controls. The Ministry of Agriculture also risked creating a famine by selling farmers only 30 percent of the fuel they needed for planting and harvesting.

Later the government tried to curb inflation by requiring stores to file paper work every time they raised a price. This meant that many of the stores employees had to devote their time to filling out these government forms. Instead of curbing inflation this policy actually increased inflation because the stores tended increase prices by a bigger jump so that they would not have file forms for another price increase so soon.

In October of 1993 the created a new currency unit. One new dinar was worth one million of the old dinars. In effect, the government simply removed six zeroes from the paper money. This of course did not stop the inflation and between October 1, 1993 and January 24, 1995 prices increased by 5 quadrillion percent. This number is a 5 with 15 zeroes after it.

In November of 1993 the government postponed turning on the heat in the state apartment buildings in which most of the population lived. The residents reacted to this withholding of heat by using electrical space heaters which were inefficient and overloaded the electrical system. The government power company then had to order blackouts to conserve electricity.

The social structure began to collapse. Thieves robbed hospitals and clinics of scarce pharmaceuticals and then sold them in front of the same places they robbed. The railway workers went on strike and closed down Yugoslavia's rail system.

In a large psychiatric hospital 87 patients died in November of 1994. The hospital had no heat, there was no food or medicine and the patients were wandering around naked.

The government set the level of pensions. The pensions were to be paid at the post office but the government did not give the post offices enough funds to pay these pensions. The pensioners lined up in long lines outside the post office. When the post office ran out of state funds to pay the pensions the employees would pay the next pensioner in line whatever money they received when someone came in to mail a letter or package. With inflation being what it was the value of the pension would decrease drastically if the pensioners went home and came back the next day. So they waited in line knowing that the value of their pension payment was decreasing with each minute they had to wait in line.

Many Yugoslavian businesses refused to take the Yugoslavian currency at all and the German Deutsche Mark effectively became the currency of Yugoslavia. But government organizations, government employees and pensioners still got paid in Yugoslavian dinars so there was still an active exchange in dinars. On November 12, 1993 the exchange rate was 1 DM = 1 million new dinars. By November 23 the exchange rate was 1 DM = 6.5 million new dinars and at the end of November it was 1 DM = 37 million new dinars. At the beginning of December the bus workers went on strike because their pay for two weeks was equivalent to only 4 DM when it cost a family of four 230 DM per month to live. By December 11th the exchange rate was 1 DM = 800 million and on December 15th it was 1 DM = 3.7 billion new dinars. The average daily rate of inflation was nearly 100 percent. When farmers selling in the free markets refused to sell food for Yugoslavian dinars the government closed down the free markets. On December 29 the exchange rate was 1 DM = 950 billion new dinars.

About this time there occurred a tragic incident. As usual pensioners were waiting in line. Someone passed by their line carrying bags of groceries from the free market. Two pensioners got so upset at their situation and the sight of someone else with groceries that they had heart attacks and died right there.

At the end of December the exchange rate was 1 DM = 3 trillion dinars and on January 4, 1994 it was 1 DM = 6 trillion dinars. On January 6th the government declared that the German Deutsche was an official currency of Yugoslavia. About this time the government announced a new new dinar which was equal to 1 billion of the old new dinars. This meant that the exchange rate was 1 DM = 6,000 new new dinars. By January 11 the exchange rate had reached a level of 1 DM = 80,000 new new dinars. On January 13th the rate was 1 DM = 700,000 new new dinars and six days later it was 1 DM = 10 million new new dinars.

The telephone bills for the government operated phone system were collected by the postmen. People postponed paying these bills as much as possible and inflation reduced there real value to next to nothing. One postman found that after trying to collect on 780 phone bills he got nothing so the next day he stayed home and paid all of the phone bills himself for the equivalent of a few American pennies.

Here is another illustration of the irrationality of the government's policies. James Lyon, a journalist, made twenty hours of international telephone calls from Belgrade in December of 1993. The bill for these calls was 1000 new new dinars and it arrived on January 11th. At the exchange rate for January 11th of 1 DM = 150,000 dinars it would have cost less than one German pfennig to pay the bill. But the bill was not due until January 17th and by that time the exchange rate reached 1 DM = 30 million dinars. Yet the free market value of those twenty hours of international telephone calls was about $5,000. So the government despite being strapped for hard currency gave James Lyon $5,000 worth of phone calls essentially for nothing.

It was against the law to refuse to accept personal checks. Some people wrote personal checks knowing that in the few days it took for the checks to clear inflation would wipe out as much as 90 percent of the cost of covering those checks.

On January 24, 1994 the government introduced the super dinar equal to 10 million of the new new dinars. The Yugoslav government's official position was that the hyperinflation occurred "because of the unjustly implemented sanctions against the Serbian people and state."

cari288

wah, 五千亿 !!!!

cari288

看来LZ 是鸡金的fan。

cari288

原帖由 chinchai 于 9-11-2008 09:55 AM 发表
Hi,  Kawan Cari,

出席下一届的 "怡保全羊宴"  KAWAN CARI, 每个都成为亿万富豪。

有谁肯乐捐  "亿万富豪"  吗 ?

chinchai 大大，终于露脸了。

下一届的 "怡保全羊宴" 是明年几时？？ 好期待 。。。

goodluck88

露脸已经是一个月前的事了。。。

cari288

我知道，不过他近来很少上来cari。。。

hoollly

Zimbabwe awash in worthless currency
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_11279766?source=rss

zimbabwe总是不负众望的再创金融历史记录.

The pale blue bank note that says 1,000,000 Zimbabwean dollars really means 10,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Yes, that's 10 quintillion, taking into account the 13 zeros Zimbabwe's central bank has lopped off in the past couple of years to make the currency somewhat more manageable.

SDChen

世界各地的惡性通貨膨脹http://www.lalulalu.com/viewthread.php?tid=650105


中國各朝代惡性通貨膨脹史
http://ido.thethirdmedia.com/article/frame.aspx?turl=http%3a//ido.3mt.com.cn/article/200810/show1110870c31p1.ibod&rurl=&title=%u8D27%u5E01%u53F2%u7684%u5343%u5E74%u89C4%u5F8B_%u8D75%u6D77%u5747%uFF1A%u4E2D%u56FD%u7ECF%u6D4E%u4E0D%u4F1A%u9677%u5165%u8D27%u5E01%u6CE5%u6F6D%20---%20ido.3mt.com.cn

hoollly

马来西亚人的历史程度,平均来说,是差到没有得顶.

这就是如果和他们说起香蕉钱,100个里面懂的不会超过5个.

如果连懂都不懂,叫他们在制作经济策略的时候,把恶性通货膨胀算在里面,这无疑是个不可能的任务了.

K男

目前初步判断这波股市涨潮是建立在区域各货币贬值后的市场价格调整－－有个比较笼统的看法－石油－黄金～～长线看涨－目前石油的调整价格很吸引人－若最低可以是０－目前４０－曾经１４７－－很大赚幅空间

hoollly

一个月都不到.zimbabwe再创历史记录.

Zimbabwe introduces $50 billion note
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/10/zimbawe.currency/index.html

HARARE, Zimbabwe (CNN) -- Zimbabwe's central bank will introduce a $50 billion note -- enough to buy just two loaves of bread -- as a way of fighting cash shortages amid spiraling inflation.

The country's acting finance minister, Patrick Chinamasa, made the announcement in a government gazette released Saturday.

While Chinamasa did not give the date on which the $50 billion and new $20 billion notes would come into circulation, an official at the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe said the notes would be distributed to all banks by the end of Monday.

Zimbabwe is grappling with hyperinflation now officially estimated at 231 million percent and its currency is fast losing its value. As of Friday, one U.S. dollar was trading at around ZW$25 billion.

When the government issued a $10 billion note just three weeks ago, it bought 20 loaves of bread. That note now can purchase less than half of one loaf.

Realizing the worthlessness of the currency, the RBZ has allowed most goods and services to be charged in foreign currency. As a result, grocery purchases, government hospital bills, property sales, rent, vegetables and even mobile phone recharge cards are now paid for in foreign currency, as the worthless Zimbabwe dollar virtually ceases to be legal tender.

Once a regional economic model, Zimbabwe is in the throes of an economic crisis, with unemployment running at more than 80 per cent and many families unable to afford a square meal. President Robert Mugabe's critics blame his policies for the economic meltdown but he in turn says the West is sabotaging his efforts.

In order to attract foreign currency, Zimbabwe's central bank has, since September, licensed at least 1,000 shops to sell goods in foreign currency. All mobile phone service providers are now licensed to accept foreign exchange for airtime and other services.

John Robertson, an economist in Zimbabwe, said he's puzzled by the introduction of the new $50 and $20 billion notes.

"I am not really sure what these notes would be for," he said. "No one now accepts the local currency. It is a waste of resources to print Zimbabwe dollar notes now. Who accepts a currency that loses value by almost 100 percent daily?"

In August last year, the RBZ slashed ten zeros from the currency. But the zeroes have bounced back with more vigor.

A power-sharing deal between Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai signed in September -- and brokered by former South African leader Thabo Mbeki -- raised hopes of halting Zimbabwe's plunge into economic destruction.

But the pact has stalled over the allocation of key cabinet ministries, with Tsvangirai accusing Mugabe of grabbing all key posts such as defense, home affairs, local government, foreign affairs and finance.

Genghiss

大量印钞票，这跟当年蒋介石用金元券换取黄金如同。
最后祸国殃民，丢失大陆。:@ :@ :@

siaolee2000

你不用猜，Hoolly大师原本就是要表达股市长期“上涨“是由货币贬值所造成的。难道你们现在才看得出吗？

hoollly

US Inflation Could Hit 200%: Dr. Doom

"In the US, we have a totally new school, and it’s called the Zimbabwe school," Faber said. "And it’s founded by one of the great leaders of this world, Mr Robert Mugabe, that has managed to totally impoverish his own country. And that is the monetary policy the US is pursuing."

more on http://www.cnbc.com/id/29047443

新的经济学派,津巴布维学派.