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请问 "Contact Process" 在不在syllabus里面? |
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:15 AM
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原帖由 ronloh94 于 14-11-2006 01:06 AM 发表
请问 "Contact Process" 在不在syllabus里面?
还在啊,你所谓的还在是指 ??syllabus 里面一定要教到 ? 还是其他意思 ??我老师也有提到,通常它的 application 和 其他那些 haber process , ostwald process 一样,你需要知道关于 equilibrium 和 heterogeneous catalytic process ,所以大致上应该不会难应付 |
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:29 AM
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我的参考书(longman和补习的note)完全没有"Contact Process",所以不知道要怎样读。你的参考书有没有? |
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:31 AM
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我是用 Fajar Bakti 的,也是一样没有 contact process 的资料,所以我觉得知道另外两个,应该可以应付这个了 。。。 |
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:52 AM
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:59 AM
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为什么会有矛盾呢 ??在这里的话 acid and base 的定义就不只是 H+ 和 OH- 的范围了,这里是用 Bronsted-Lowry theory 了。
NH4+ 和 OH- 可以算是 ionic compound 来的,所以会有 electrostatic force 存在的哦 ,就如 dunwan2tellu 兄所说的。还有,
NH4+ + OH- <==> NH3 + H2O
是 reversible reaction 来的,因为它们 exist in equilibrium
[ 本帖最后由 JamesTea 于 14-11-2006 02:34 AM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 14-11-2006 08:31 AM
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原帖由 JamesTea 于 14-11-2006 01:59 AM 发表
为什么会有矛盾呢 ??在这里的话 acid and base 的定义就不只是 H+ 和 OH- 的范围了,这里是用 Bronsted-Lowry theory 了。
NH4+ 和 OH- 可以算是 ionic compound 来的,所以会有 electrostatic force 存在的哦 ,就如 dunwan2tellu 兄所说的。还有,
NH4+ + OH- <==> NH3 + H2O
是 reversible reaction 来的,因为它们 exist in equilibrium
我想你误会了。
NH4+ + OH- --> NH3 + H2O
我没放双箭头,是因为我说的是laboratory preparation of ammonia:
2 NH4Cl + Ca(OH)2 --> CaCl2 + 2 NH3 + 2 H2O
我说NH4(+)是acidic的,和 OH(-) 结合有点矛盾。是因为:
NH4(+) + H2O <=> NH3 + H3O(+)
When extra OH(-) is added to the mixture, OH(-) reacts with H3O(+) to form water, the equilibrium is disturbed.By Le Chatelier's principle, the equilibrium will shift to the right to decrease [H3O(+)].
NH4(+)要和OH(-)结合之前就变NH3了。
所以我说NH4(+)是acid,不会和OH(-)结合为NH4OH。
有什么acid会和OH(-)结合form salt的?
[ 本帖最后由 ronloh94 于 14-11-2006 08:54 AM 编辑 ] |
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NH4OH 我上网查,看到 http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/webFunChem/bases/base6.htm . 我想它是存在的。
下一题
问题 83
Explain the following observation :
(i)Across the period from left to right, the property of oxide changes from basic oxide to acidic oxide .
(ii)Going down the group ,the property of oxide changes from acidic oxide to basic oxide |
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发表于 14-11-2006 11:10 AM
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http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hotline/95report/10_95mhr.txt
Facilities should use the percent total ammonia specified on
the label of ammonium hydroxide solutions they purchase to
determine the total ammonia content in these solutions. Ammonium
hydroxide has the chemical formula NH4OH; however, strong
evidence indicates that the species NH4OH does not exist.
Bottles of concentrated aqueous ammonia purchased from chemical
supply companies are almost always labeled ammonium hydroxide.
These solutions primarily consist of molecules of NH3 dissolved
in water (along with small amounts of ionized ammonia). The
48.59 percent listed in Table 1 for ammonium hydroxide is based
on the chemical formula NH4OH, not the actual concentration of
total ammonia in ammonium hydroxide solutions. The actual
concentration may vary depending upon the amount of NH3 used to
make the solution. Thus, Table 1 may not accurately reflect the
actual weight of total aqueous ammonia in any given solution
labeled ammonium hydroxide.
http://www.mines.edu/fs_home/ddickerh/CH341/ObjSet_4.html
12. Know the difference between aqueous ammonia, ammonium hydroxide, and liquid ammonia. Know that the chemical NH4OH does not exist as a molecule (despite what is says on the bottle). |
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发表于 14-11-2006 01:43 PM
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原帖由 JamesTea 于 14-11-2006 12:00 AM 发表
electronic configuraton of Nitrogen atom and Hydrogen atom:
N : 1s2 2s2 2p3
H : 1s1
ammonia is form when each of the 3 H atoms are sharing a single electron with 2p orbital of N ...
其实这是我朋友的补习老师给的题目。 他的答案和JamesTea 的解释一样, 都是说 nitrogen 没有 2d orbital。 可是我们不明百, 因为 NH4Cl 存在, 为什么 NH4OH 就不可以一样呢。。 |
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原帖由 QooLuo 于 14-11-2006 01:43 PM 发表
其实这是我朋友的补习老师给的题目。 他的答案和JamesTea 的解释一样, 都是说 nitrogen 没有 2d orbital。 可是我们不明百, 因为 NH4Cl 存在, 为什么 NH4OH 就不可以一样呢。。
关于这个问题我昨天想了很久,还是觉得其实两个都是存在的,只不过不能以这样的 formula express 出来吧 !! 通常如果写 formula 出来的话 ammonium salt 的 formula 我都是以 NH4+ Cl- 和 NH4+ OH- 这样写出来的,因为觉得这样肯定不会混淆。因为如果写 Lweis sturcture 出来的话是着样的哦
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至于 NH4+OH- 也一样的。
[ 本帖最后由 JamesTea 于 14-11-2006 02:38 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 14-11-2006 06:38 PM
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会不会是。。。。
NH3 can dissolve in H2O because it forms H bonds with H2O molecules. From the beginning, it never dissociates into NH4+ or OH-... The convention of writing aqueous NH3 as NH4OH is just to simplify the equations of the reactions of NH3.
只是个人意见。。。 |
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发表于 14-11-2006 06:42 PM
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今天去问过我老师了, 她说现在都不用ammonium hydroxide 这个字眼了而是用 NH3(aq)。
她的答案和楼上的查不都一样。。 |
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How to differentiate benzoic acid and aliphatic carboxylic acid?...(p/sH 给的灵感...) |
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发表于 15-11-2006 09:50 AM
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原帖由 lowch1 于 14-11-2006 06:38 PM 发表
会不会是。。。。
NH3 can dissolve in H2O because it forms H bonds with H2O molecules. From the beginning, it never dissociates into NH4+ or OH-... The convention of writing aqueous NH3 as NH4OH ...
我同意你说的,但NH3会dissociates into NH4+ or OH-,只是它们不会结合吧。 |
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原帖由 紫色的黑蝴蝶 于 15-11-2006 01:00 AM 发表
How to differentiate benzoic acid and aliphatic carboxylic acid?...(p/sH 给的灵感...)
benzoic acid reacts with aqueous iron(III) chloride to form a buff-coloured complex.
3 C6H5COOH (aq) + Fe(3+) (aq) ----> (C6H5COO)3 Fe (s) + 3 H(+) (aq)
Aliphatic carboxylic acid has no reaction. |
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